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Christ a Special Creation?

For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—
That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God. - Doctrine and Covenants 76:23-24 (Romans 11:36)

Now here's another claim from our INC friend declaring their theory about the Nature of Christ as the Creation of the Father.


There's the Thing -
  • When was creation occurs?
  • Does the Word Creation necessarily means something that was made up out of something, or out of nothing?
  • If creation was used as a being Created by a supreme creator, then it doesn't make sense in using the term Firstborn.
Just because the word Creations is mentioned in some parts of the Bible, does it say something about Christ's existence as a Son of God, or as a Creation of God?

To know the right biblical answer is to elaborate on how it was used in the text and how it was meant during the time of scribing the text.

When Christ asks the Father to ease the burden he carries during his atonement, what's he asking?

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Christ simply asks to bring back the glory which he already had before he was born. How could a creature who only exists in mortal life ask God something he has if he didn't exist together with his Father?

Following the same Passage, Christ said something about the things the Father owns -

John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

So, who owns everything? I could see both of them. Both the father and the Son own everything. But it depends on how you understand the text.

Here's another text about Christ as the creator -

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.


How come Christ became a special Creation? Or could be a creator was also the creation?

Biblically, there's no such thing as Special Creation. The fact that Christ was God's firstborn among the creation was of course he is Next to the Father, he was a Son of God. A literal offspring. There could be no such thing as Children if our Existence is something like a toy created out of some material that could be destroyed anytime and that's the End of it. Principles of Heaven are different, we couldn't comprehend what it meant eternal if it refers to a thing that has a beginning and an ending. That doesn't help you understand the Nature of God, nor even help you understand biblical exegesis.


Christ a Special Creation?

For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—
That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God. - Doctrine and Covenants 76:23-24 (Romans 11:36)

Now here's another claim from our INC friend declaring their theory about the Nature of Christ as the Creation of the Father.


There's the Thing -
  • When was creation occurs?
  • Does the Word Creation necessarily means something that was made up out of something, or out of nothing?
  • If creation was used as a being Created by a supreme creator, then it doesn't make sense in using the term Firstborn.
Just because the word Creations is mentioned in some parts of the Bible, does it say something about Christ's existence as a Son of God, or as a Creation of God?

To know the right biblical answer is to elaborate on how it was used in the text and how it was meant during the time of scribing the text.

When Christ asks the Father to ease the burden he carries during his atonement, what's he asking?

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Christ simply asks to bring back the glory which he already had before he was born. How could a creature who only exists in mortal life ask God something he has if he didn't exist together with his Father?

Following the same Passage, Christ said something about the things the Father owns -

John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

So, who owns everything? I could see both of them. Both the father and the Son own everything. But it depends on how you understand the text.

Here's another text about Christ as the creator -

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.


How come Christ became a special Creation? Or could be a creator was also the creation?

Biblically, there's no such thing as Special Creation. The fact that Christ was God's firstborn among the creation was of course he is Next to the Father, he was a Son of God. A literal offspring. There could be no such thing as Children if our Existence is something like a toy created out of some material that could be destroyed anytime and that's the End of it. Principles of Heaven are different, we couldn't comprehend what it meant eternal if it refers to a thing that has a beginning and an ending. That doesn't help you understand the Nature of God, nor even help you understand biblical exegesis.


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