Failure has its limits.

Failure has its limits, and we have the unlimited capacity of Trying.

- Jerry N. Bustillo

Failure has its limits.

Failure has its limits, and we have the unlimited capacity of Trying.

- Jerry N. Bustillo

Failure has its limits.

Failure has its limits, and we have the unlimited capacity of Trying.

- Jerry N. Bustillo

Christ as God

One of the conversation with someone in Facebook who knows the CHRIST is just a mere human. Has a different divine calling. I made my commentary in italics and add some references. See below are the list of scriptures we use.

Colosas 2:9 

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

- This is one of the post that I posted one time that none of the INC responded. The term use as GODHEAD BODILY is infact the nature of Christ currently and even the world before it was created.

John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

- This never conflicts about his nature, since the word 'come in flesh' obviously states something that he has a different nature than an ordinary human. We don't need to use 'come in flesh' term if obviously all human born of it in nature. Conflict? I don't think so.

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1 Corinthians 15:3

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

- The word died doesn't change his nature as a God. The only thing that dies is his human body which is not yet a glorified Element.

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1 Timothy 1:17

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen

- You use this to simply justify the claim that God could never be mortal and yet Christ had died physically. But you never realized how this message to Timothy simply states that it is the same being that was mentioned by Paul. Here's the reference - 

1 Timothy 6

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

- Clearly, Christ is also immortal, invisible, etc... So, what's the difference? Nothing at all.

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1 Corinthians 1:23

But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

- Using this scripture doesn't change the nature of his Godship. Christ was crucified and died, but he was resurrected, the only thing that matters. Death is part of the plan and Christ was the example of obedience. Which mean, death is nothing more than a essential part of Christ line upon line Glory.

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Colossians 2:9 as quoted -

Divine nature meaning "attributes" not state of being God.

- Really? I don't know how you understand that word BODILY. 

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Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Sino ang nagbigay kay JC ng authority?

Matt. 11:27

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

- Yes it is clear that The Father is superior than the Christ. Obviously, Christ called Him Father stands directly as higher than him. But that doesn't change his divinity. Look closely what and how it say 1. all power/authority is given to him in heaven and in earth. Does this mean that Christ is equal with the Father? If his not, why would God the Father allow that everything (ALL) will be given to him? What's the father's purpose anyway?

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Does this meant that JC is god?

Answer is no:

1 Corinthians 15

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

- And we will go in circle using the same statement. That doesn't change his nature. If so, then why God the Father allows his son to have Power Authority or Dominion over all things in heaven or in earth? Why need someone to do his work where he is omnipotent, omniscience, omnicompetent and everything else. Why need somebody to take over and hand him everything he has?

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So I'll add the statement of Paul to the Hebrew and ask. How do you understand it?

Hebrew 1

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

- It was the father speaking to the son.

Christ as God

One of the conversations with someone on Facebook who knows the CHRIST is just a mere human. Has a different divine calling. I made my commentary in italics and add some references. See below the list of scriptures we use. -

God the Father and Jesus Christ
by Del Parson

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

- This is one of the posts that I posted one time that none of the INC responded to. The term used as GODHEAD BODILY is in fact the nature of Christ currently and even the world before it was created.

John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

- This never conflicts with his nature, since the word 'come in flesh' obviously states something that he has a different nature than an ordinary human. We don't need to use the 'come in flesh' term if obviously all humans are born of it in nature. Conflict? I don't think so.

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1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

- The word died doesn't change his nature as a God. The only thing that dies is his human body which is not yet a glorified Element.

----

1 Timothy 1:17

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen

- You use this to justify the claim that God could never be mortal, yet Christ had died physically. But you never realized how this message to Timothy simply states that it is the same being that was mentioned by Paul. Here's the reference - 

1 Timothy 6

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

- Clearly, Christ is also immortal, invisible, etc... So, what's the difference? Nothing at all.

----

1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

- Using this scripture doesn't change the nature of his Godship. Christ was crucified and died, but he was resurrected, the only thing that matters. Death is part of the plan and Christ was the example of obedience. Which means, death is nothing more than an essential part of Christ's line upon line Glory.

----

Colossians 2:9 as quoted -

Divine nature means "attributes" not state of being God.

- Really? I don't know how you understand the word BODILY. 

----

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Sino ang nagbigay kay JC ng authority?

Matt. 11:27

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

- Yes it is clear that The Father is superior than the Christ. Obviously, Christ called Him Father stands directly as higher than him. But that doesn't change his divinity. Look closely what and how it say 1. all power/authority is given to him in heaven and in earth. Does this mean that Christ is equal with the Father? If his not, why would God the Father allow that everything (ALL) will be given to him? What's the father's purpose anyway?

----

Does this meant that JC is god?

Answer is no:

1 Corinthians 15

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

- And we will go in a circle using the same statement. That doesn't change his nature. If so, then why God the Father allows his son to have Power Authority or Dominion over all things in heaven or on earth? Why need someone to do his work where he is omnipotent, omniscient, omnicompetent and everything else. Why need somebody to take over and hand him everything he has?

----

So I'll add the statement of Paul to the Hebrew and ask. How do you understand it?

Hebrew 1: 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

- It was the father speaking to the son.

For an update: She never responded back.