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Yes, I could no longer access my Google account, and someone changed the entire detail. Then Google asked me a silly question.

I just go around in Circle. LOL!

Quotes from somewhere in the Movie

Yup, it's one of the well-known Marvel Comic Writers. It's not actually complicated, and yet it's something worth keeping.

That Person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real SUPERHERO - Stan Lee

Paano si CRISTO ay Anak ng ETERNAL FATHER pero siya rin ang ETERNAL FATHER? - Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. - Isaiah 9:6

So here we are again in a failed eisegesis from our friend Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, thinking this can be answered. Now we'll check out if his claim -

Marites Palos Salinas Di mo masagot dito tapos magpapadala ka pa ng misyunaryo ninyo bakit?

Addressing a member of the Church, a missionary might answer his critics. We'll see how this works. Also, it might be good to find a missionary in your area and then tell them that we were having disputes about your failed eisegesis, or maybe you can get a picture of it so they may know about us. I'll challenge you on that, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.

According to this book of Mormon the Lamb of God or Christ is the Son of the Eternal Father but according to this book also Christ is both the Father and the Son the very Eternal Father.

1 Nephi 11:21
21 And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father! Knowest thou the meaning of the tree which thy father saw?

Mosiah Chapter 15
How Christ is both the Father and the Son—He will make intercession and bear the transgressions of His people—They and all the holy prophets are His seed—He brings to pass the Resurrection—Little children have eternal life. About 148 B.C.
1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people.
2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—
4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.

I underlined and highlighted the words for you to get the point, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, and it seems like you overlooked some important details.

Pakipaliwanag nga po kung paano si CRISTO ay Anak ng ETERNAL FATHER pero siya rin ang ETERNAL FATHER?

Just because Christ has both the Title of a Father, that doesn't mean he was the Father in Heaven. They were both Eternal, and Christ also has the title of the Father, still subject to the Father in Heaven.

I'll give you an example, we know Abraham was the Father of many Nations, does it mean Abraham was literally our Father? No, of course, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, that was his title to those who accept the Abrahamic Covenant. Adam also holds the title of the Father of All races, and yet we have other Fathers of different races. Christ also has the Title of the Father since he was subjected to the will of the Father, or as it says, conceived by the Power of God. This is simply called Divine Intervention

Baka kayang ipaliwanag ng hambog mong co-member na si Jerry Nuñez Bustillo di ba may priesthood authority siya?

Okay, so here's a further explanation, so it will be easy for you to understand.

In the Scriptures, aside from Isaiah 9:6, Christ clearly states: "I and my Father are one" (see John 10:30). Then, ask this: which part are they one? Are they one as a being, or are they one in purpose and authority? Since you already knew and understand that we don't believe, or should I say accept, the trinitarian view, then this will be easy for you to understand Christ's statement. Here's another one "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" John 14:9-10. Why would Jesus Christ try to emphasize that? Why would we take it literally when we knew Christ talked to a different being sometime in his ministry? And even God the Father introduces Christ soon after he came out from the waters of baptism with John the Baptist?

Another thing is that Christ was the Father of the Creation. There are a lot of scriptural verses in the scripture that tell us how the world was created through him. Which obviously means God's creation is meaningless without Christ. Here are some selected scriptures for you, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, and I will just select some of them. I know you can find more on it since you use your Bible for criticism every day. John 1:1-3, And here we clearly see Christ was with the Father from the Beginning and that he holds the same title and the same being as God. So it was God who created all things through Christ. Hebrews 1:2 Christ was "appointed heir of all things", now ask that question. Why would God do that? Then go ahead and continue reading, as it says, "by whom also he made the worlds". This doctrine alone is hard and deep in your INC studies since Christ was just a mere human to your understanding.

And lastly, since this article took a long time to write, and I actually hate long words, I guess I have to take this chance. Christ was the Father Because He Gave Us Eternal Life. Your doctrine of Christ was just a man doesn't even make sense, while the scripture plainly says God is the Saviour, and that part of Christ's divine authority, he has the power and has conquered death, so everyone who believes in him and do the will of the Father will be saved “The Son quickeneth whom he will” John 5:21.

Clear enough, and my explanation is done, and it seems like the bible has the same error if you call it an error, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? So, what's your rebuttal?

Doctrine and Covenants 87: LDS church members, was this prediction of your false prophet come to pass? - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

Doctrine and Covenants Section 87
Revelation and prophecy on war, given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at or near Kirtland, Ohio, December 25, 1832. At this time disputes in the United States over slavery and South Carolina’s nullification of federal tariffs were prevalent. Joseph Smith’s history states that “appearances of troubles among the nations” were becoming “more visible” to the Prophet “than they had previously been since the Church began her journey out of the wilderness.”
1–4, War is foretold between the Northern States and the Southern States; 5–8, Great calamities will fall upon all the inhabitants of the earth.
1 Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.
3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.

LDS church members, was this prediction of your false prophet come to pass?

Fair question, and yet you copy and paste data that you don't even know the context of, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, and yes, kailangan din talaga natin ng kaunting digging sa history nito.

Ang prophecy ni Joseph Smith regarding sa Doctrine and Covenants 87 ay nabanggit na niya noong December 25, 1832. Pero hindi ito agad nangyari kinabukasan or within a year. And to tell you Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, dumaan muna ang halos 28 na taon bago nagsimula ang pangyayaring na itinuturing na katuparan nito - ang American Civil War.

April 12, 1861, ang Confederate States ang nagsimula ng unang skirmish, noong sila ay napaputuk laban sa puwersa ng Union. At yun pormal na nagsimula ang laban. In short, ang simula ng war ay hindi mula sa Union, kundi mula sa panig ng Confederacy at ’yan mismo ang point sa prophecy ni Joseph Smith.

Masmaganda balikan mo ang mismong sinabi sa D&C 87:1

Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina…

Malinaw na hindi ito instant fulfillment at hindi rin basta hula na kinabukasan ay nagkatotoo. May oras, may konteksto, at may aktuwal na pangyayaring tumugma sa sinabi. Clear ba Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

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Another Threat from our INC Friend Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

Mormons aren’t Christian because their definition of Salvation includes nonbelievers.

Maybe, or maybe you misunderstood the meaning of Salvation. We don't believe God predistined others to be damned while others were saved just because they're evangelicals or protestants. We believe that God is a loving Father, and he wants everyone to come back to his presence someday. Although we have different beliefs or paths of faith, the Gospel is available to everyone who wasn't able to find it. So there will be no excemptions at the last days, the only thing that you and I should look at is to use our choices wisely. God save those who choose to keep his commandments, and everyone has a choice to accept or neglect them.

More of it, check out this scripture to help you out -

Ezekiel 18:23 - Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
1 Timothy 2:3-4 - God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord… is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Luke 15:11-24 (Parable of the Prodigal Son)
Matthew 23:37 - How often would I have gathered thy children together… and ye would not!
Romans 2:14–16 - God judges people according to the light and law they had.
John 1:9 - That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Acts 17:26–27 - God placed people so they should seek the Lord… though he be not far from every one of us.
Romans 14:12 - So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Revelation 20:12 - The dead were judged… according to their works.
Luke 12:48 - For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required.
Deuteronomy 30:19 - I have set before you life and death… therefore choose life.
Joshua 24:15 - Choose you this day whom ye will serve.
John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Hebrews 5:9 - He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.

Addition ensights from The Book of Mormon

Mosiah 3:11 - His blood atoneth for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam, who have died not knowing the will of God.
2 Nephi 26:24-28 - He inviteth them all to come unto him… and he denieth none that come unto him.
Alma 42:27 - Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance.
2 Nephi 2:27 - Men are free… to choose liberty and eternal life… or to choose captivity and death.
Mosiah 2:41 - Consider on the blessed and happy state of those that keep the commandments of God.

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FORMAL DEBATE "Sola Scriptura vs Open Canon" with Jose Rodelio Retome Rata and Jerry Bustillo

Posted on February 5, 2026, based on the agreement between parties.

Presenter: Jose Rodelio Retome Rata (INC) – Sola Scriptura
Opponent: Jerry N. Bustillo (LDS) – Open Canon
Date: March 10, 2026

Moderator: (To be Announced)
Platform: Single-thread or nested-thread format only

PART 1: INC PRESENTATION (Presenter)
Speaker: Jose Rodelio Retome Rata (INC)
Topic: Sola Scriptura (By Scripture Alone)
Length Requirement:

Minimum: 400 words
Maximum: 2,000 characters

Guidelines:

Present the doctrinal position clearly.
Stick strictly to the subject of Scriptural authority.
No quotations from external authors or religious critics.
No ad hominem, strawman, or diversionary arguments.
No Scripture flooding. Don't quote the whole scriptural content, but rather the main points of the presentation.

Presenter Starts -

Rebuker: Sige Jerry Nuñez Bustillo maglalatag ako ng presentasyon ko tapos ikaw naman dahil ako ang unang magtatanong diba na pumayag ka na may kasunduan tayo tama?
Ito ang presentasyon ko iklian ko lang para ikaw naman ang maglalatag ng presentasyon mo at magtatanong agad ako.
2 Timoteo 3:15-17
Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
15 At mula sa pagkasanggol ay iyong nalalaman ang mga banal na kasulatan na makapagpadunong sa iyo sa ikaliligtas sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya kay Cristo Jesus.
16 Ang lahat ng mga kasulatan na kinasihan ng Dios ay mapapakinabangan din naman sa pagtuturo, sa pagsansala, sa pagsaway, sa ikatututo na nasa katuwiran:
17 Upang ang tao ng Dios ay maging sakdal, tinuruang lubos sa lahat ng mga gawang mabuti.
Ayon kay apostol Pablo ang banal na kasulatan o BIBLIYA ay nakapagpadunong sa tao sa ikaliligtas sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya kay Cristo.
Ang BIBLIYA ay magagamit sa PAGTUTURO, sa PAGSANSALA, sa PAGSAWAY, sa ikatututo na nasa KATUWIRAN, upang ang TAO o lingkod ng DIOS ay maging SAKDAL, tinuruang lubos sa lahat ng mga gawang MABUTI.
Ang KATUWIRAN ay ang EVANGELIO o MGA SALITA NG DIOS.
Roma 1:16-17
Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
16 Sapagka't hindi ko ikinahihiya ang evangelio: sapagka't siyang kapangyarihan ng Dios sa ikaliligtas ng bawa't sumasampalataya; una'y sa Judio, at gayon din sa Griego.
17 Sapagka't dito ang katuwiran ng Dios ay nahahayag mula sa pananampalataya hanggang sa pananampalataya: gaya ng nasusulat, Nguni't ang ganap ay mabubuhay sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya.
Ang MABUTI ay ang mga salita ng Dios.
Roma 7:12
Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
12 Kaya nga ang kautusan ay banal, at ang utos ay banal, at matuwid, at mabuti.
SAMAKATUWID-KUMPLETO ANG BIBLIYA SAPAGKAT TINURUANG LUBOS SA LAHAT NG MGA GAWANG MABUTI O MGA KAUTUSAN NG DIOS ANG TUNAY NA LINGKOD NG DIOS.
2 Timoteo 3:17
Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
17 Upang ang tao ng Dios ay maging sakdal, tinuruang lubos sa lahat ng mga gawang mabuti.
NA KAPAG ININGATAN ANG MGA SALITA NG DIOS AY LIGTAS ANG TAO.
1 Corinto 15:1-2
Ang Dating Biblia (1905)
15 Ngayo'y ipinatatalastas ko sa inyo, mga kapatid, ang evangelio na sa inyo'y aking ipinangaral, na inyo namang tinanggap, na siya naman ninyong pinananatilihan,
2 Sa pamamagitan naman nito'y ligtas kayo kung matiyaga ninyong iingatan ang salitang ipinangaral ko sa inyo, maliban na kung kayo'y nagsipanampalataya nang walang kabuluhan.
KAYA HINDI NA KAILANGAN NG IBA PANG AKLAT KUNDI ANG BIBLIYA LAMANG ANG KAILANGAN SA IKALILIGTAS NG TAO.
AYAN NA ANG PRESENTASYON KO IKAW NAMAN PARA MAGTATANONG NA AKO!

*** Presenter fails on Guideline 5

Cross-Examination by LDS (Opposition)
Limit: 10 questions only
Rules:

Questions must be based directly on the INC presentation.
Closed or polar questions allowed with brief clarification.
No follow-up arguments within the question.
No change of subject.

List of Questions on the Actual Debate:
Question 1 -

You said "Ayon kay apostol Pablo ang banal na kasulatan o BIBLIYA ay nakapagpadunong sa tao sa ikaliligtas sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya kay Cristo." Based on your understanding of Paul as presented in 1 Timothy 3:17, was the Bible Complete at that time, during Paul's Message to Timothy?
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PART 2: LDS PRESENTATION (Opposition)
Speaker: Jerry N. Bustillo (LDS)
Topic: Open Canon
Length Requirement:

Minimum: 400 words
Maximum: 2,000 characters

Guidelines:

Present the doctrine of continuing revelation and canon.
Do not misrepresent the INC position.
Avoid emotional or personal language.
Focus on theological and scriptural reasoning only.

Cross-Examination by INC (Presenter)

Limit: 10 questions only
Rules:

Questions must be based directly on the LDS presentation.
Closed or polar questions allowed with brief clarification.
No follow-up arguments within the question.
No change of subject.

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PART 3: REBUTTALS

INC Rebuttal

Focus: Address claims made in the LDS presentation
Length: 250–300 words

Rules:

Respond only to the presented arguments.
No new doctrines introduced.
Don't quote the whole scripture text, but rather the main points of the presentation. Scripture references are limited and explained briefly.

LDS Rebuttal

Focus: Address claims made in the INC presentation
Length: 250–300 words

Rules:

Respond only to the presented arguments.
No new doctrines introduced.
Don't quote the whole scripture text, but rather the main points of the presentation. Scripture references are limited and explained briefly.

PART 4: CONCLUDING QUESTION (Analytical)

Moderator’s Question:

- One carefully worded analytical question was derived from both presentations.
- Each side responds once.
- No counter-questions allowed.

AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Selection by Moderator Only

INC Audience Questions (5)

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LDS Audience Questions (5)

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Rules:

The audience may comment but not debate.
No deletions permitted without moderator approval.

PART 5: CLOSING STATEMENTS
INC Closing Statement

Summary of position
Final clarification
No new arguments

LDS Closing Statement

Summary of position
Final clarification
No new arguments

MODERATOR AUTHORITY & FINALE

The moderator may pause or end the discussion if the rules are violated.
Decision based on biblical exegesis, not popularity.

Records are archived by both parties and the moderator.

Conclusion: Concede Defeat. Did not answer the Cross-Examination and diverted the issue, abandoning the debate and running around in different groups in a Red Herring and a Bandwagon.

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He was an immoral man with delusions of grandeur - by Sandra Smith Franklin

Seriously? So, every Christian, as they claim to be, grows up in this kind of mindset? What kind of religious bigotry is ever taught in the Christian world today?

So here's my question -

How can you conclude Joseph's Motives without knowing how Joseph Smith lived during his time?
How can someone easily judge someone, just because of their different cultural standards vs the Latter?
Were the former Practices necessary to be opened up just to evaluate someone's beliefs in their modern standards?
If so, then why don't we question the Bible in practicing weird stuff?

If I'm not a Christian and you tell me this kind of Conclusion, seems like a joke to me. Christian World should be matured enought to use Christlike emotions rather than making themselves a clown in the context.

Refrain from answering with ChatGPT - by JM Janice Barlow

JM Janice Barlow is asking everyone not to make a response in ChatGPT, which I agree with, as information such as in ChatGPT might not be accurate to the actual doctrine.

Well, yeah, sounds fair since we all need to be more precise in our criticisms and doctrinal Study if we really know and understand what has been taught. Yet, I don't know which part you are talking about and who made a commentary. It may be safe to address it or post a link so we can understand and know which part of the comment might be off-topic. So, yeah, granting you nail something on it. Let's go on to your other post.

While on her wall -

Now what do we have here? So, tell me if this wasn't AI-generated. And tell us something if you know the context of the scriptures, so we can clearly understand that this has something to do with Mormonism and its un-Christian teaching? Can you?

Does your mother god and father god have sex? - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

Okay, so here we are in one of our INC Friend Hocus Pocus ideology, thinking again it was out of doctrine just because no one can prove it, or should I say, it wasn't in the Biblical Text. Let's check out some of his ideology and see if we can settle it.

Just because the LDS believe that Male and female were divine identities of humans before birth, he then tries to assume that Sexual Intercourse was then part of God's Natural behavior, and since God is a being who created the same beings as Human which are male and female. He thinks this could lead to an erroneous case study of Deity.

Yes, it is true. We don't deny that Male and Female were divine identity which is why it was created for the intent of Procreation. This Jose Rodelio Retome Rata takes it on a different level, and that is Chastity. Little did Jose Retome Rata know that we value the Chastity of women, we believe that Sex is sacred and that it can only be done by a married couple? (See The Family: A Proclamation to the World)

Take from one of Jose Rodelio Retome Rata's Copy-Paste Programs

So, what exactly was the LDS doctrine of Heavenly Mother and Sex?
So far, for you to understand Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, we don't have any theological doctrine or maybe a revelatory declaration that said anything about the Father and Mother God, and also with the Children God nourished with milk. The clear answer is We don't know the process; everything that has been discussed without a source is simply based on assumption.

Commenting with Brian Chipman, thinking that everything written in the Bible is enough knowledge or information to understand the nature of God. We don't believe in Sola Scriptura, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. You should put that in your head.

The first attempt on Mother in Heaven was actually from Eliza R. Snow, a Poem that was sung in a hymn titled "Oh, My Father." Below was a copy-paste article from the Church Official Site at https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/mother-in-heaven?lang=eng. Jose Rodelio Retome Rata chose to cut some parts; maybe he doesn't like to know the part where it was already explained, which answers his questions.

As with many other truths of the gospel, our present knowledge about a Mother in Heaven is limited. Nevertheless, we have been given sufficient knowledge to appreciate the sacredness of this doctrine and to comprehend the divine pattern established for us as children of heavenly parents. Latter-day Saints believe that this pattern is reflected in Paul’s statement that “neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.” Men and women cannot be exalted without each other. Just as we have a Father in Heaven, we have a Mother in Heaven. As Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles has said, “Our theology begins with heavenly parents. Our highest aspiration is to be like them.”

So again, the teachings or theological study about our Heavenly Mother are limited. So your questions about sex, and other things is just based on your assumptions and understanding in this world, and it doesn't make any sense. So far, the safest answer is, "We don't know the process and it wasn't revealed". There may be good reasons for it, and for me, the closest reason was the sacredness of their Nature. So, to this Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, as I have said, if you think sex is just a casual thing you do every day, or maybe you weren't taught about the importance of chastity, to Latter-day Saints, it is sacred.

Check this out on my other responses to an INC woman on the same subject -

Responding Eliza Lino Abaya - Heavenly Mother