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INC Childish Moment

Some of the INC members knows only Childish Comments. To this guy, I don't know how old you are that it seems like you are not matured enough to accept the fact, or maybe you are just as arrogant as those INC that I'd known. If you think you taught the Doctrine of Christ, then Stop being such childish.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 13:11

Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
- Titus 2:6-8

INC Childish Moment

Some of the INC members knows only Childish Comments. To this guy, I don't know how old you are that it seems like you are not matured enough to accept the fact, or maybe you are just as arrogant as those INC that I'd known. If you think you taught the Doctrine of Christ, then Stop being such childish.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 13:11

Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
- Titus 2:6-8

Job Bautista: Desperately fail

Another desperate attack from our Friendly Antagonist Job Bautista. This was a reply to my former post that answers the nonsense criticisms of his ideology. This time he tries to dig it up thinking that something needs to be done and yet he failed the second time. Here his post below, text in color are my response - 

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo
(same old as he addressed his attacks)

Dahil dios niyo si Nephi siya ang ngayon ang pinaglilingkuran ng angel ? 2 Nephi 4:24
This is funny. We never said Nephi was a God. He's confused about the words worship and minister. He thinks angels will just only minister to our God the Father, which is equivalent to worship (As Job Bautista defines it). Okay, so what happened to my post about this subject? Did you answer it? 

24 At sa araw ako ay nawalan ng takot na taimtim na manalangin sa harapan niya; oo, ang aking tinig ay pinararating ko sa kaitaasan; at ang mga anghel ay bumaba at naglingkod sa akin.

ANG ANGEL DAW BUMABA AT NAGLINGKOD KAY NEPHI ?
Yeah right, so what's the big deal. Angels minister Christ and yet you believe Christ was just a man. How was that?

Matthew 4:11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

kasi itong talata na ito pilit ninyo kinokonek sa Hebreo 1:14 Ano ang mga anghel, kung ganoon? Sila'y mga espiritung naglilingkod sa Diyos at mga isinugo upang tumulong sa mga Mali ligtas.

Seriously, that's how you understand the scripture? The Ministering Angel even appears to Samson's parents -

Judges13:2 ¶ And there was a certain man of Zorah, of the family of the Danites, whose name was Manoah; and his wife was barren, and bare not.
3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:
5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

DITO SA HEB. 1:14 ANG ANGEL NG DIYOS ANG PINAGLILINKURAN NIYA ANG DIYOS .

DIBA KITANG KITA ANG MAGKAIBA NG VERSION .
Your making it too hard for you to understand basic things. How are you gonna reconcile that with the scriptures that I gave?

VERSION NG DIYOS SIYA PINAGLILINGKURAN NG ANGEL.
No question to that, but don't limit their Capacity to minister. God has the means for each of his children to understand his words and Ministering Angels has that authority to deliver His (Gods) message in those days. And I'm pretty much you are confused about the Word Minister VS Worship. Maybe because you limit your vocabulary to the TAGALOG version. Either way that's fine with me and not even a contradiction.

VERSION NI NEPHI SIYA NAMAN ANG PINAGLILINGKURAN NG ANGEL ?
Okay, I already responded your question. You fail on your understanding. 

SA DALAWANG VERSION NA ITO ALIN ANG TAMA AT ALIN NAMAN ANG HUWAD NA ARAL ? READERS KAYO ANG MAGHUHUSGA KUNG ANG SA DALAWANG VERSION ANG TAMA ?
Readers can easy judge your content are so absurd. Nothing new at all just a senseless portion of your arrogant selections. No wonder why you people don't have a revelation. 

Here's a post of my response to his senseless ideology. This was posted in their Group and he can't even refute it rather he just pick one verse not even close to his understanding. Let jump in -

Hey Job Bautista 
Here's a copy from the official Group page posted by Nathaniel Ternora Olaer for you. Hope you like it.
    • Angels ministered to Israel - Ex. 14:19
    • An Angel ministered to Gideon - Judg. 6:11-23
    • An Angel ministered to Peter - Acts 10:9-23
    • An Angel Ministered to Paul - Acts 27:23-38
    • An Angel Ministered to Zacharias - Luke 1:11-20
    • An Angel Ministered to  Joseph - Matt. 1:20-24; 2:13-20
    • An Angel Ministered to the virgin Mary - Luke 1:26-38
    • Angels ministered to Bethlehem Shepherds - Luke 2:8-15
    • Angels ministered Mary Magdalene, The Other Mary, Salome, And Other Women- Matt. 28:9-7; Mark 16:1-7; Luke 24:7-23; John 20:11-13
    • An Angel Ministered to Apostles - Acts 1:9-11; 5:17-20
    • An Angel Ministered to Philip - Acts 8:26
    • An Angel Ministered to Cornelius - Acts 10:3-32; 11:13
    • An Angel Ministered to John the Revelator - Rev. 1:1; 10:8-11; 11:1; 17:7; 22:6-16
    • Revelations 22:8-9's context is about an angel ministering to John forbades to worship him; worshiping of angels is forbidden (cf. Col. 2:18) and not angels serving to people. God sent angels to help and protect people (Ex. 23:20; Ps. 34:7; 91:11; Luke 4:10-11); and they are ministering spirits (Heb. 1:14). there's nothing wrong with an angel ministering to Nephi. Job just took the whole scriptures out from context.
Credit to Nathaniel Ternora Olaer
Do you get it now?
P.S. Worship and Minister has a different Meaning. Come on, this is so basic.

After, his response and re-posting from his group. This is what we got from his arrogance -

I made my response to his comments.
Using Matthew 4:11
Christ were visited and
was ministered by the Angel.

Which means, you're simply saying
Christ is God, he was
ministered and worship.
So, it's a 100% correct from the Bible.
Thanks for confirming
That Christ is God.

Was that you call debunk? This guys need someone to help his weak understanding. Hope he swallow his pride for sometime. So childish and absurd. Nothing new to this kind of bigot.

Job Bautista: Desperately fail

Another desperate attack from our Friendly Antagonist Job Bautista. This was a reply to my former post that answers the nonsense criticisms of his ideology. This time he tries to dig it up thinking that something needs to be done and yet he failed the second time. Here his post below, text in color are my response - 

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo
(same old as he addressed his attacks)

Dahil dios niyo si Nephi siya ang ngayon ang pinaglilingkuran ng angel ? 2 Nephi 4:24
This is funny. We never said Nephi was a God. He's confused about the words worship and minister. He thinks angels will just only minister to our God the Father, which is equivalent to worship (As Job Bautista defines it). Okay, so what happened to my post about this subject? Did you answer it? 

24 At sa araw ako ay nawalan ng takot na taimtim na manalangin sa harapan niya; oo, ang aking tinig ay pinararating ko sa kaitaasan; at ang mga anghel ay bumaba at naglingkod sa akin.

ANG ANGEL DAW BUMABA AT NAGLINGKOD KAY NEPHI ?
Yeah right, so what's the big deal. Angels minister Christ and yet you believe Christ was just a man. How was that?

Matthew 4:11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

kasi itong talata na ito pilit ninyo kinokonek sa Hebreo 1:14 Ano ang mga anghel, kung ganoon? Sila'y mga espiritung naglilingkod sa Diyos at mga isinugo upang tumulong sa mga Mali ligtas.

Seriously, that's how you understand the scripture? The Ministering Angel even appears to Samson's parents -

Judges13:2 ¶ And there was a certain man of Zorah, of the family of the Danites, whose name was Manoah; and his wife was barren, and bare not.
3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:
5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

DITO SA HEB. 1:14 ANG ANGEL NG DIYOS ANG PINAGLILINKURAN NIYA ANG DIYOS .

DIBA KITANG KITA ANG MAGKAIBA NG VERSION .
Your making it too hard for you to understand basic things. How are you gonna reconcile that with the scriptures that I gave?

VERSION NG DIYOS SIYA PINAGLILINGKURAN NG ANGEL.
No question to that, but don't limit their Capacity to minister. God has the means for each of his children to understand his words and Ministering Angels has that authority to deliver His (Gods) message in those days. And I'm pretty much you are confused about the Word Minister VS Worship. Maybe because you limit your vocabulary to the TAGALOG version. Either way that's fine with me and not even a contradiction.

VERSION NI NEPHI SIYA NAMAN ANG PINAGLILINGKURAN NG ANGEL ?
Okay, I already responded your question. You fail on your understanding. 

SA DALAWANG VERSION NA ITO ALIN ANG TAMA AT ALIN NAMAN ANG HUWAD NA ARAL ? READERS KAYO ANG MAGHUHUSGA KUNG ANG SA DALAWANG VERSION ANG TAMA ?
Readers can easy judge your content are so absurd. Nothing new at all just a senseless portion of your arrogant selections. No wonder why you people don't have a revelation. 

Here's a post of my response to his senseless ideology. This was posted in their Group and he can't even refute it rather he just pick one verse not even close to his understanding. Let jump in -

Hey Job Bautista 
Here's a copy from the official Group page posted by Nathaniel Ternora Olaer for you. Hope you like it.
    • Angels ministered to Israel - Ex. 14:19
    • An Angel ministered to Gideon - Judg. 6:11-23
    • An Angel ministered to Peter - Acts 10:9-23
    • An Angel Ministered to Paul - Acts 27:23-38
    • An Angel Ministered to Zacharias - Luke 1:11-20
    • An Angel Ministered to  Joseph - Matt. 1:20-24; 2:13-20
    • An Angel Ministered to the virgin Mary - Luke 1:26-38
    • Angels ministered to Bethlehem Shepherds - Luke 2:8-15
    • Angels ministered Mary Magdalene, The Other Mary, Salome, And Other Women- Matt. 28:9-7; Mark 16:1-7; Luke 24:7-23; John 20:11-13
    • An Angel Ministered to Apostles - Acts 1:9-11; 5:17-20
    • An Angel Ministered to Philip - Acts 8:26
    • An Angel Ministered to Cornelius - Acts 10:3-32; 11:13
    • An Angel Ministered to John the Revelator - Rev. 1:1; 10:8-11; 11:1; 17:7; 22:6-16
    • Revelations 22:8-9's context is about an angel ministering to John forbades to worship him; worshiping of angels is forbidden (cf. Col. 2:18) and not angels serving to people. God sent angels to help and protect people (Ex. 23:20; Ps. 34:7; 91:11; Luke 4:10-11); and they are ministering spirits (Heb. 1:14). there's nothing wrong with an angel ministering to Nephi. Job just took the whole scriptures out from context.
Credit to Nathaniel Ternora Olaer
Do you get it now?
P.S. Worship and Minister has a different Meaning. Come on, this is so basic.

After, his response and re-posting from his group. This is what we got from his arrogance -

I made my response to his comments.
Using Matthew 4:11
Christ were visited and
was ministered by the Angel.

Which means, you're simply saying
Christ is God, he was
ministered and worship.
So, it's a 100% correct from the Bible.
Thanks for confirming
That Christ is God.

Was that you call debunk? This guys need someone to help his weak understanding. Hope he swallow his pride for sometime. So childish and absurd. Nothing new to this kind of bigot.

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