The Fall of Lucifer
This one is very tough, because, First Biblically Satan is the Enemy of God and It's not written directly as if it was, but rather the scripture was mean to be understood in its content and context. And these people are too poor to comprehend such teachings. So do you think it is Neil Andi Anderson, Job Bautista, and Tupa Sheep? But let's get to it straight. Here are some of the scriptural texts that need to ponder. |
| Christ tempted by Satan |
Lucifer the Fallen Angel -
Isaiah 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
The scripture verses that we learned were all about how Lucifer fall because of his vain ambitions. He wanted to excel higher than God's chosen Host. He wanted to be like the most High. And of course, God is the Most High, and the throne above the others (Mark 5:7, Daniel 7:27). So, Lucifer was an Angel and since he is, then let's take this topic to a different level.
So, the question to this Trolls.
1. Where did he (Lucifer) come from?
2. If he's not one of God's Angel, then what was he?
Angel as Holy Beings
we must build a common ground first using the question, Are angels Sons of God or different Creatures created aside from Man? From former times Angel's are also honored and known to be as ones sent by God or messengers and some other scriptures taught us that angels were also addressed as Gods. Take for example in the days before Samson was born, the Angel Appeared to his Parents and told them the things they need to do for their child. And how did they react to that angelic Visitation?
Judges 13
21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.
22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
23 But his wife said unto him, If the LORD were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these things, nor would as at this time have told us such things as these.
What was that? Manoah (Samson's Father) knew it was an angel, but what happens then was that he proclaim differently or maybe he saw it differently, seems like it was God whom they saw, and they're even concerned in their lives that they'll perish for seeing God Physically. But no, everyone knows it was an Angel of course. But here simply shows that Angels has a higher calling and that perhaps they're almost worshiped as God. Maybe because they're afraid of it or maybe they have seen it differently than a normal being. And I'm pretty sure those Angel's do have Glory, may be different from God. The point there was Angels are not just mere creations that will just simply self-destruct after the message was delivered.
Isaiah 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
The scripture verses that we learned were all about how Lucifer fall because of his vain ambitions. He wanted to excel higher than God's chosen Host. He wanted to be like the most High. And of course, God is the Most High, and the throne above the others (Mark 5:7, Daniel 7:27). So, Lucifer was an Angel and since he is, then let's take this topic to a different level.
So, the question to this Trolls.
1. Where did he (Lucifer) come from?
2. If he's not one of God's Angel, then what was he?
Angel as Holy Beings
we must build a common ground first using the question, Are angels Sons of God or different Creatures created aside from Man? From former times Angel's are also honored and known to be as ones sent by God or messengers and some other scriptures taught us that angels were also addressed as Gods. Take for example in the days before Samson was born, the Angel Appeared to his Parents and told them the things they need to do for their child. And how did they react to that angelic Visitation?
Judges 13
21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.
22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
23 But his wife said unto him, If the LORD were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these things, nor would as at this time have told us such things as these.
What was that? Manoah (Samson's Father) knew it was an angel, but what happens then was that he proclaim differently or maybe he saw it differently, seems like it was God whom they saw, and they're even concerned in their lives that they'll perish for seeing God Physically. But no, everyone knows it was an Angel of course. But here simply shows that Angels has a higher calling and that perhaps they're almost worshiped as God. Maybe because they're afraid of it or maybe they have seen it differently than a normal being. And I'm pretty sure those Angel's do have Glory, may be different from God. The point there was Angels are not just mere creations that will just simply self-destruct after the message was delivered.
Angels are Children of God.
Going back to the subject, and since we knew that Angel's were beings and were messengers. And we come to know that Lucifer is also an Angel. Then, what were they in the kingdom of God?
Going back to the subject, and since we knew that Angel's were beings and were messengers. And we come to know that Lucifer is also an Angel. Then, what were they in the kingdom of God?
Let's try to look at it in the scriptures.
Hebrew 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
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13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Hebrew 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
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13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Christ also commented a hypocrite Sadducees who did not believe in the resurrection.
Luke 20
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
So, what are we and Angels? We are both equal children. To conclude, Lucifer who was a fallen angel, and even those angels who follow him, were our brothers and sisters, you must understand the scriptures rather than copy and pasting images you can't even explain. It is in your scriptures, you only need your brain to work to understand it. And what happened here, was that our Three Idiot Friend never notices the words of the scriptures. You need to focus on your doctrine, my friends. Sorry, you fail to understand it.
