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Job Bautista's Poor Responses and Weak Understanding: Hebrew 1:8

And here's his poor and funny response to my article that he thinks he debunks. Sorry Job Bautista you fail and will never learn. I'll prove you wrong and see how weak your understanding about the scriptures - 

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo 

Ang isa pa sa hindi nauunawan ni Mr. Little bit harder . Na sinabi niya na si PJC daw ay Diyos ng lahat ng Espiritu? Nope, I never said that. See how you ignore the text? You are too stupid to say that I claim that. Here's the text for you to understand - 

So, what was it all about? It was addressed to the father and yet you Job Bautista tries to debunk it twisting its meaning. Nice try, but not good enough.

Dito na naman siya sumablay dahil ang Diyos ay nasa kalagayang Espiritu ayon sa Juan 4:24 at nilinaw ni PJC na siya ay may laman at buto na nagpapatunay na siya ay wala sa kalagang Espiritu ayon sa Lukas 24:39

Sad to say, you fail again to understand the scripture. John 4:24 says this - 

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Did you understand it Job Bautista? Those who worship God must worship him in Spirit. So, tell me. Did you leave your body hanging in your closet to worship God in Spirit during your INC Mass? How do you leave your body and let your spirit worship in your church? Can you do that magic trick? 🤣🤣🤣! See how poor your understanding Job. You never notice that it was all about worshiping God communicating Him in our Spirit and it was not about his Nature. Look how weak you are in understanding the scriptures. 

And in Luke 24:39 says about the resurrection of Christ.

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

You never notice that Christ helps you understand the true nature of God and their Glory. Christ simply show an example that everyone will be resurrected as in John 5:29 says

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

And take note, Stephen saw Christ beside the Father.
Acts 7
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
So was there any difference? Does Stephen says Christ has body and The Father is just an air? No he never and in fact Christ is standing in his right Arm which mean it was in the side of the Father who has at the same time has body. But you fail to understand it Job Bautista,  because of your bigotry of course. 

note: Sablay ka naman kaibigan. Sorry, You just simply fail on your bible study. You better have a minister with you every time you make a comment. You just can't understand the scripture and will never understand what's written. 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na ang Juan 20:17 ay pinalilitaw ko na Tao si Panginoong Jesus dahil siya ay aakyat sa kanyang Diyos . Hindi ko raw kinikilala ang divinity ni PJC ? May sinabi ba sa Juan 20:17 na aakyat siyang Diyos ? Very clever but fail. No, it says nothing about him ascended as a God and also it never says anything that he'll ascend as a mere human so what give? You just can't simply admit that Christ is the Son of God the firstborn of Creature and the First fruit of Resurrection. Your understanding about Christ was that he's a different being and not the same being as a God. You fail to understand how God call him as his Son if he is not the same being as He is. Your weak exegesis leads you to misunderstand the scriptures. That's what you are Job Bautista, you'll never learn.

Sablay na namab ang defense ng pulpol na tagapagtanggol ni Josrph Smith. And the only thing you can do is simply Ad Hominem. Poor guy, Can you do better than that?

Ang tanong natin sayo Mr.Little bit Harder noong nasa langit ba si PJC may sinabi ba siyang Diyos siya na nakaupo sa kanan ng Diyos ? The father declare that he is God and how do you try to bend that?

Here's some of the different version about God proclamation to his Son found in Hebrew 1:8 - 

KJ21 - But unto the Son He saith, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Thy Kingdom.

ASV - but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AMP - But about the Son [the Father says to Him], “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of [absolute] righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

AMPC - But as to the Son, He says to Him, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever (to the ages of the ages), and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of absolute righteousness (of justice and straightforwardness).

BRG - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

CSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

CEB - But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice.

CJB - but to the Son, he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; you rule your Kingdom with a scepter of equity;

CEV - But God says about his Son, “You are God, and you will rule as King forever! Your royal power brings about justice.

Darby - but as to the Son, Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age, and a sceptre of uprightness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

DLNT - But with regard to the Son He says: “Your throne, God, is forever and ever. And the scepter of straightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

DRA - But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

ERV - But this is what he said about his Son: “God, your kingdom will last forever and ever. You use your authority for justice.

EHV - But about the Son he says: God, your throne is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESVUK - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom.

EXB - But God said this about his Son: “·God, your throne [L Your throne, O God; ] will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with ·fairness [L a just/righteous scepter; C a scepter symbolizes royal authority].

GNV - But unto the Son he saith, O God, thy throne is forever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

GW - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

GNT - About the Son, however, God said: “Your kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever! You rule over your people with justice.

HCSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

ICB - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

ISV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.

PHILLIPS - For to which of the angels did he ever say such words as these: ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you?’ Or, again ‘I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?’ Further, when he brings his first-born into this world of men, he says: ‘Let all the angels of God worship him’ This is what he says of the angels: ‘Who makes his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire’ But when he speaks of the Son, he says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your companions’. He also says: ‘You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will not fail’. But does he ever say this of any of the angels: ‘Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool?’ Surely the angels are no more than spirits in the service of God, commissioned to serve the heirs of God’s salvation.

JUB - But unto the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a rod of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AKJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

LEB - but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom.

TLB - but of his Son he says, “Your Kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever; its commands are always just and right.

MSG - But he says to the Son, You’re God, and on the throne for good; your rule makes everything right. You love it when things are right; you hate it when things are wrong. That is why God, your God, poured fragrant oil on your head, Marking you out as king, far above your dear companions.

MEV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, lasts forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

MOUNCE - But regarding the Son he says, · “Your throne, O God, is for all time, · and the scepter of absolute justice is the scepter of your kingdom.

NOG - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

NABRE - but of the Son: “Your throne, O God, stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NASB - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

NASB1995 - But of the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.

NCB - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NCV - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

Net - but of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NIRV - But here is what he says about the Son. “You are God. Your throne will last for ever and ever. Your kingdom will be ruled by justice.

NIV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

NIVUK - But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a sceptre of justice will be the sceptre of your kingdom.

NKJV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

NLV - But about His Son, He says, “O God, Your throne will last forever. Whatever You say in Your nation is right and good.

NLT - But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

NMB - But to the Son he says: O God, your seat shall be for ever and ever. The sceptre of your kingdom is a right sceptre.

NRSV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NRSVA - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVACE - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NTE - In relation to the son, however, it says, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever; the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom;

OJB - And Hashem says to HaBen, KIS’AHCHA ELOHIM OLAM VAED SHEVET MISHOR SHEVET MALKHUTECHA ("Your throne, O G-d, will endure for ever and ever, and the scepter of justice is the scepter of your kingdom"‖TEHILLIM 45:7).

TPT - But about his Son, he called him “God,” saying, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever and you will rule your kingdom with justice and righteousness,

RGT - But to the Son, He says, “O God, Your throne is forever and ever. The scepter of Your Kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

RSV - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

RSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

TLV - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.

Voice - But to the Son He said, God, Your throne is eternal; You will rule Your kingdom with the scepter of justice.

Web - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom.

WE - But here is what God says about his Son: `O God, you will sit and rule for ever. You will rule in the right way.

WYC - But to the Son he saith, God, thy throne is into the world of world [into the world of worlds]; a rod of equity is the rod of thy realm;

YLT - and unto the Son: `Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age; a scepter of righteousness [is] the scepter of thy reign;

And here I'll add George Lamsa's translation to be fair - 

LAMSA - But of the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right scepter.

And since you love James Moffat's version, let's also add that with complicated verses in Hebrew 1:1-2, 8-9 - 

1. Many were the forms and fashions in which God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets,

2. but in these days at the end he has spoken to us by a Son — a Son whom he appointed heir of the universe, as it was by him that he created the world.

8. he says of the Son, 'God is thy throne for ever and ever, thy royal sceptre is the sceptre of equity:

9. thou hast loved justice and hated lawlessness, therefore God, thy God, has consecrated thee with the oil of rejoicing beyond thy comrades' —

Okay so back to my question.

    1. How are you gonna bend it?
    2. It was God who proclaimed his Son as a God, are you still against it? 

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Seriously? I don't think so? Sorry, you're too slow to understand it. Try Again. 

Inamin mo rin sa blog mo na talagang superior ang Ama kisa sa PJC dyan palang talo na naman ang stand mo dahil pumabor ang statement ko na ang Diyos ang superior at si PJC ay susuko sa kanyang Diyos ayon sa 1 Cor. 15:27-28 you're getting more and more absurd. You don't know how it was written. Christ is of course under the direction of the Father. The word itself says He is the Father and Christ is the Son which means The father is always superior than him. 

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Sablay, for what? You simply assume you got the answers while in fact it was never an answer rather a poor exegesis of your bigotry. FAIL! 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na hindi ko raw na realized na si PJC ay nabuhay na mag uli ? Obviously, you don't understand it. Maybe you know he was resurrected, but for sure you don't know the meaning of the event most especially the Atonement.

Jerry Mr. Little bit Harder hind mo ba alam na si Panginoong Jesus ay binuhay ng Ama ? It's never a question since Christ doesn't have the glory yet during his mortal ministry. The very reason why he ask the father to bring it back so he can glorify God and they will be one. Still FAIL. 

Conclusion : Sablay lahat ang iyong atake at tumama lang sa mukha ni Mr. Little bit Harder ang lahat ng kanyang binabato sa INC. So much of your empty answers and bigotry. The only thing I could conclude was that your too weak to understand the scriptures and to slow to catch up. It all ended up Ad Hominem. Your just making yourself a dumb among the dumbest people that I know. 

Kaya kung ako sayo, tumahimik ka nalang at huwag mong pangahasan na unawain ng personal interpretation ang Bible dahil ito ay binigay lamang sa mga hinirang ng Diyos na makakaunawa na ayon sa Espiritu Santo na ipinagkaloob sa amin ayon sa Gawa 2:39, Rev. 7:2-3 and here goes an appeal to emotions. Sorry did I hurt you? Truth really hurts but it's to hurt  to accept while your ego won't let it in. 

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

This has nothing to do with the topic, but maybe he's trying to Insert their INC man-made doctrine of bigotry so he thinks he can catch some big fish in their net. Your out of the topic and it has nothing to do with INC Doctrine, using such word Afar off from a Greek word Makran. Too bad I know your teachings Job Bautista and too bad it doesn't fit everything about the INC Philippines. Sorry you Fail Again.

Job Bautista's Poor Responses and Weak Understanding: Hebrew 1:8

And here's his poor and funny response to my article that he thinks he debunks. Sorry Job Bautista you fail and will never learn. I'll prove you wrong and see how weak your understanding about the scriptures - 

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo 

Ang isa pa sa hindi nauunawan ni Mr. Little bit harder . Na sinabi niya na si PJC daw ay Diyos ng lahat ng Espiritu? Nope, I never said that. See how you ignore the text? You are too stupid to say that I claim that. Here's the text for you to understand - 

So, what was it all about? It was addressed to the father and yet you Job Bautista tries to debunk it twisting its meaning. Nice try, but not good enough.

Dito na naman siya sumablay dahil ang Diyos ay nasa kalagayang Espiritu ayon sa Juan 4:24 at nilinaw ni PJC na siya ay may laman at buto na nagpapatunay na siya ay wala sa kalagang Espiritu ayon sa Lukas 24:39

Sad to say, you fail again to understand the scripture. John 4:24 says this - 

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Did you understand it Job Bautista? Those who worship God must worship him in Spirit. So, tell me. Did you leave your body hanging in your closet to worship God in Spirit during your INC Mass? How do you leave your body and let your spirit worship in your church? Can you do that magic trick? 🤣🤣🤣! See how poor your understanding Job. You never notice that it was all about worshiping God communicating Him in our Spirit and it was not about his Nature. Look how weak you are in understanding the scriptures. 

And in Luke 24:39 says about the resurrection of Christ.

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

You never notice that Christ helps you understand the true nature of God and their Glory. Christ simply show an example that everyone will be resurrected as in John 5:29 says

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

And take note, Stephen saw Christ beside the Father.
Acts 7
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
So was there any difference? Does Stephen says Christ has body and The Father is just an air? No he never and in fact Christ is standing in his right Arm which mean it was in the side of the Father who has at the same time has body. But you fail to understand it Job Bautista,  because of your bigotry of course. 

note: Sablay ka naman kaibigan. Sorry, You just simply fail on your bible study. You better have a minister with you every time you make a comment. You just can't understand the scripture and will never understand what's written. 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na ang Juan 20:17 ay pinalilitaw ko na Tao si Panginoong Jesus dahil siya ay aakyat sa kanyang Diyos . Hindi ko raw kinikilala ang divinity ni PJC ? May sinabi ba sa Juan 20:17 na aakyat siyang Diyos ? Very clever but fail. No, it says nothing about him ascended as a God and also it never says anything that he'll ascend as a mere human so what give? You just can't simply admit that Christ is the Son of God the firstborn of Creature and the First fruit of Resurrection. Your understanding about Christ was that he's a different being and not the same being as a God. You fail to understand how God call him as his Son if he is not the same being as He is. Your weak exegesis leads you to misunderstand the scriptures. That's what you are Job Bautista, you'll never learn.

Sablay na namab ang defense ng pulpol na tagapagtanggol ni Josrph Smith. And the only thing you can do is simply Ad Hominem. Poor guy, Can you do better than that?

Ang tanong natin sayo Mr.Little bit Harder noong nasa langit ba si PJC may sinabi ba siyang Diyos siya na nakaupo sa kanan ng Diyos ? The father declare that he is God and how do you try to bend that?

Here's some of the different version about God proclamation to his Son found in Hebrew 1:8 - 

KJ21 - But unto the Son He saith, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Thy Kingdom.

ASV - but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AMP - But about the Son [the Father says to Him], “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of [absolute] righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

AMPC - But as to the Son, He says to Him, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever (to the ages of the ages), and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of absolute righteousness (of justice and straightforwardness).

BRG - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

CSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

CEB - But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice.

CJB - but to the Son, he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; you rule your Kingdom with a scepter of equity;

CEV - But God says about his Son, “You are God, and you will rule as King forever! Your royal power brings about justice.

Darby - but as to the Son, Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age, and a sceptre of uprightness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

DLNT - But with regard to the Son He says: “Your throne, God, is forever and ever. And the scepter of straightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

DRA - But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

ERV - But this is what he said about his Son: “God, your kingdom will last forever and ever. You use your authority for justice.

EHV - But about the Son he says: God, your throne is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESVUK - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom.

EXB - But God said this about his Son: “·God, your throne [L Your throne, O God; ] will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with ·fairness [L a just/righteous scepter; C a scepter symbolizes royal authority].

GNV - But unto the Son he saith, O God, thy throne is forever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

GW - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

GNT - About the Son, however, God said: “Your kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever! You rule over your people with justice.

HCSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

ICB - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

ISV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.

PHILLIPS - For to which of the angels did he ever say such words as these: ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you?’ Or, again ‘I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?’ Further, when he brings his first-born into this world of men, he says: ‘Let all the angels of God worship him’ This is what he says of the angels: ‘Who makes his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire’ But when he speaks of the Son, he says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your companions’. He also says: ‘You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will not fail’. But does he ever say this of any of the angels: ‘Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool?’ Surely the angels are no more than spirits in the service of God, commissioned to serve the heirs of God’s salvation.

JUB - But unto the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a rod of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AKJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

LEB - but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom.

TLB - but of his Son he says, “Your Kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever; its commands are always just and right.

MSG - But he says to the Son, You’re God, and on the throne for good; your rule makes everything right. You love it when things are right; you hate it when things are wrong. That is why God, your God, poured fragrant oil on your head, Marking you out as king, far above your dear companions.

MEV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, lasts forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

MOUNCE - But regarding the Son he says, · “Your throne, O God, is for all time, · and the scepter of absolute justice is the scepter of your kingdom.

NOG - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

NABRE - but of the Son: “Your throne, O God, stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NASB - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

NASB1995 - But of the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.

NCB - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NCV - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

Net - but of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NIRV - But here is what he says about the Son. “You are God. Your throne will last for ever and ever. Your kingdom will be ruled by justice.

NIV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

NIVUK - But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a sceptre of justice will be the sceptre of your kingdom.

NKJV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

NLV - But about His Son, He says, “O God, Your throne will last forever. Whatever You say in Your nation is right and good.

NLT - But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

NMB - But to the Son he says: O God, your seat shall be for ever and ever. The sceptre of your kingdom is a right sceptre.

NRSV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NRSVA - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVACE - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NTE - In relation to the son, however, it says, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever; the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom;

OJB - And Hashem says to HaBen, KIS’AHCHA ELOHIM OLAM VAED SHEVET MISHOR SHEVET MALKHUTECHA ("Your throne, O G-d, will endure for ever and ever, and the scepter of justice is the scepter of your kingdom"‖TEHILLIM 45:7).

TPT - But about his Son, he called him “God,” saying, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever and you will rule your kingdom with justice and righteousness,

RGT - But to the Son, He says, “O God, Your throne is forever and ever. The scepter of Your Kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

RSV - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

RSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

TLV - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.

Voice - But to the Son He said, God, Your throne is eternal; You will rule Your kingdom with the scepter of justice.

Web - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom.

WE - But here is what God says about his Son: `O God, you will sit and rule for ever. You will rule in the right way.

WYC - But to the Son he saith, God, thy throne is into the world of world [into the world of worlds]; a rod of equity is the rod of thy realm;

YLT - and unto the Son: `Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age; a scepter of righteousness [is] the scepter of thy reign;

And here I'll add George Lamsa's translation to be fair - 

LAMSA - But of the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right scepter.

And since you love James Moffat's version, let's also add that with complicated verses in Hebrew 1:1-2, 8-9 - 

1. Many were the forms and fashions in which God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets,

2. but in these days at the end he has spoken to us by a Son — a Son whom he appointed heir of the universe, as it was by him that he created the world.

8. he says of the Son, 'God is thy throne for ever and ever, thy royal sceptre is the sceptre of equity:

9. thou hast loved justice and hated lawlessness, therefore God, thy God, has consecrated thee with the oil of rejoicing beyond thy comrades' —

Okay so back to my question.

    1. How are you gonna bend it?
    2. It was God who proclaimed his Son as a God, are you still against it? 

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Seriously? I don't think so? Sorry, you're too slow to understand it. Try Again. 

Inamin mo rin sa blog mo na talagang superior ang Ama kisa sa PJC dyan palang talo na naman ang stand mo dahil pumabor ang statement ko na ang Diyos ang superior at si PJC ay susuko sa kanyang Diyos ayon sa 1 Cor. 15:27-28 you're getting more and more absurd. You don't know how it was written. Christ is of course under the direction of the Father. The word itself says He is the Father and Christ is the Son which means The father is always superior than him. 

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Sablay, for what? You simply assume you got the answers while in fact it was never an answer rather a poor exegesis of your bigotry. FAIL! 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na hindi ko raw na realized na si PJC ay nabuhay na mag uli ? Obviously, you don't understand it. Maybe you know he was resurrected, but for sure you don't know the meaning of the event most especially the Atonement.

Jerry Mr. Little bit Harder hind mo ba alam na si Panginoong Jesus ay binuhay ng Ama ? It's never a question since Christ doesn't have the glory yet during his mortal ministry. The very reason why he ask the father to bring it back so he can glorify God and they will be one. Still FAIL. 

Conclusion : Sablay lahat ang iyong atake at tumama lang sa mukha ni Mr. Little bit Harder ang lahat ng kanyang binabato sa INC. So much of your empty answers and bigotry. The only thing I could conclude was that your too weak to understand the scriptures and to slow to catch up. It all ended up Ad Hominem. Your just making yourself a dumb among the dumbest people that I know. 

Kaya kung ako sayo, tumahimik ka nalang at huwag mong pangahasan na unawain ng personal interpretation ang Bible dahil ito ay binigay lamang sa mga hinirang ng Diyos na makakaunawa na ayon sa Espiritu Santo na ipinagkaloob sa amin ayon sa Gawa 2:39, Rev. 7:2-3 and here goes an appeal to emotions. Sorry did I hurt you? Truth really hurts but it's to hurt  to accept while your ego won't let it in. 

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

This has nothing to do with the topic, but maybe he's trying to Insert their INC man-made doctrine of bigotry so he thinks he can catch some big fish in their net. Your out of the topic and it has nothing to do with INC Doctrine, using such word Afar off from a Greek word Makran. Too bad I know your teachings Job Bautista and too bad it doesn't fit everything about the INC Philippines. Sorry you Fail Again.

Job Bautista undying misinterpretation: Jesus not God Theory

And here we go again in there wrong understanding about the scriptures. Here let's try each scripture debunking his words by simply helping our friend understand it. The colored text are my comment. Follow the text below - 

Pagbubunyag sa maling aral na tinataguyod ng Lds Church ni Joseph Smith: 

Ayon sa huwad na aklat ( BOM) na ang Diyos daw nila ay si Panginoong Jesucristo? (I don't think you need to question something you already knew) Ayon sa Mosiah 7:27 "And because he said unto them that Christ was the God, the Father of all things, and said that he should take upon him the image of man, and it should be the image after which man was created in the beginning; or in other words, he said that man was created after the image of God, and that God should come down among the children of men, and take upon him flesh and blood, and go forth upon the face of the earth—". Ito po ay labag sa nakasulat sa Biblia maging man si Panginoong Jesucristo ay may  kinikilalang Diyos (I don't see how this verse contradicting something that has biblical relevance, so far the only thing I saw was there misinterpretations and assumption) ayon sa Juan 20:17, Mateo 27:46 na kanyang sinasamba ayon sa Juan 4:22. (by quoting this verses, he assumes Christ's words were merely his divine nature while he was in a mortal state. Though Christ is the Son of God, he never claim higher in authority as the Father, but rather honor the father and address as God since he was the God of All Spirit. Let's take a look each verses and see what he meant. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. The letter in Bold Text shows how he's trying to claim that Christ was indeed human because the Father is his God, and therefore Christ is not God since there should be one whom everyone must worship. But he fail to analyzed that Christ never said anything about him and his divinity, but rather directing the audience that there is a Father who is much superior to him. This first assumption made him think of Christ as a mere human in nature, never realized that he was already risen from the dead. And here's the second he quoted in Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I already replied his comment about this one, so I'll add a screenshot about it. Anyway, Christ is simply quoting Psalm 22:1 in fulfilling the writings of the Prophets and at the same time, he shows us that though God the Father, can save him anytime he wants, and yet God the Father choose to suffer his Son Jesus Christ to feel the pains and anguish, and that, the only way to fulfill the atonement is to let him suffer as human suffer the pains and death that perhaps he could comprehend every human soul who suffers the same thing. But here our INC friend is trying to twist the subject not knowing how Christ shoulders all of our afflictions. And for the last quote it says, John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. I don't think this is the subject he meant, but I guess it should be on the next verse. Let's add it here to help him out, John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Alright, so I guess he made some brain game, that speculates Christ Teaching which leads us to analyzed on his words. Let's deal with it. Okay, so here Christ is talking to a Samaritan or a people of mixed culture and religion of Gentile and Israelite. Though Samaritans are actively observing the Laws and Prophets 2 Kings 17:24-41, this people practice traditions and the Hope for the coming of Messiah. Christ made a conversation to a Samaritan woman and was impressed in their faith, if we try to go back to Matthew 10:5 Christ Commanded his Apostle to go not into the City of Samaritan. Their different belief or practices were considered Pagans. Yet Christ knew something about their faith of the Messiah. To shorten the story, Christ made himself known to them and of course introduced his doctrine and the Father whom they should worship in Spirit. Christ plainly states that God the Father is the father of Spirit that doesn't mean his not divine. If further reading on that same chapter, The Samaritan knew the savior and they knew it was him who was prophesied by the prophet of old that will come to fulfill their words as the God and Savior. Kung ating itutuloy pa ang pagbasa sa Mosiah 7:27 Na itong  Diyos raw nila na si Panginoong Jesucristo ay ang Ama ng lahat ng bagay ? Ito po ay sumasalungat sa turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo na ang Ama ang tunay na Diyos ayon sa Juan 17:1,3. Nang siya ay tumingala sa langit . No it doesn't contradict, and it only shows how poor your understanding about Christ divinity and Calling. Christ was also address as the Everlasting Father, since he was the father of Gospel and we made covenant with God through Him. But that  doesn't says he is greater than God nor it says something about worshiping him as our God, the Father of our spirit. Anyway, to answer your confusion of scriptures you brought, in John 17:1 it says -

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

I added verse 5 to complete the meaning and Job Bautista seems hiding some of it to avoid Christ calling and divinity. The Scripture taught us about Christ Divinity and God the Father as the God of our spirit. This means that Christ was sent for to atone from our sins, but he was with God before he was born. 

At ang karugtong pa na sinasabi sa Mosiah 7:27 na ang Diyos ay nag anyong tao? And there's no question about it, the word was God and the Word was made flesh. Christ was the Word and one of the witnessing heaven. Isang maliwanag na naman na salungat na naman sa Hosea 11:9 na ang Diyos ay hindi tao at maging ang turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo siya ay Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply twisting it think Christ words as absolute. You need to break it down to understand it. Lets try to see how it was said

Hosea 11:9 (ESV) I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in wrath.

Understanding this verse is simple if you came up to analyze the nature of God and the nature of Man. Of course, God is not a man in nature and will stand above to His creation. Unlike human whose understanding are limited to things he knows now and incapable of things compare to God's limitless power.

And in John 8:40 let's analyzed that words and understand what Christ really meant -

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Does this say something about Christ as human nature or a simple conversation to let the Jews understand him? If you read further you will come to realized the reason why Christ wanted to be stoned by his own people because of blasphemy, and blasphemy mean to make himself as a God.

Kaya ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi maaaring magka ka salungat sila ni Panginoong Jesucristo sa pagtuturo kaya kung inyong mapapansin ay consistent ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi Tao ayon sa Hosea 11:9, at si Panginoong Jesucristo ay isang Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan na narinig niya sa Diyos ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures. It's all about nature of God and besides, Christ is in Human state or form and he doesn't have any glory during his proclamation. You simply misunderstood Christ words and adapt it to your INC Doctrine of man. That seems very ignorant. Understand the scripture and how it was said will guide you to know who Christ is and his divine calling as the Son of God and not a mere human. Maging man si Propeta Ezekiel nag turo na ang Tao ay hindi Diyos at ang Diyos ay hindi Tao. Ezekiel 28:2. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures, Ezekiel 28:2 says this 

“Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In the pride of your heart you say, “I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas.” But you are a mere mortal and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god.

Let's try to see how the Hebrew understands it -

“Son
בֶּן־ (ben-)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1121: A son

of man,
אָדָ֡ם (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

tell
אֱמֹר֩ (’ĕ·mōr)
Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

the ruler
לִנְגִ֨יד (lin·ḡîḏ)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 5057: A commander, civil, military, religious, honorable themes

of Tyre
צֹ֜ר (ṣōr)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 6865: Tyre -- a Phoenician city

that this is what
כֹּֽה־ (kōh-)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

the Lord
אֲדֹנָ֣י (’ă·ḏō·nāy)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 136: The Lord

GOD
יְהֹוִ֗ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3069: YHWH

says:
אָמַ֣ר ׀ (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

‘Your heart
לִבְּךָ֙ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

is proud,
גָּבַ֤הּ (gā·ḇah)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1361: To soar, be lofty, to be haughty

and you have said,
וַתֹּ֙אמֶר֙ (wat·tō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“I
אָ֔נִי (’ā·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am a god;
אֵ֣ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

I sit
יָשַׁ֖בְתִּי (yā·šaḇ·tî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3427: To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry

in the seat
מוֹשַׁ֧ב (mō·wō·šaḇ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 4186: A seat, assembly, dwelling place, dwelling, dwellers

of gods
אֱלֹהִ֛ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

in the heart
בְּלֵ֣ב (bə·lêḇ)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of the sea.”
יַמִּ֑ים (yam·mîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 3220: A sea, the Mediterranean Sea, large river, an artifical basin

Yet you
וְאַתָּ֤ה (wə·’at·tāh)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - second person masculine singular
Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you

are a man
אָדָם֙ (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

and not
וְֽלֹא־ (wə·lō-)
Conjunctive waw | Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

a god,
אֵ֔ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

though you have regarded
וַתִּתֵּ֥ן (wat·tit·tên)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

your heart
לִבְּךָ֖ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

as that
כְּלֵ֥ב (kə·lêḇ)
Preposition-k | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of a god.
אֱלֹהִֽים׃ (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative


What does it says? The word אָדָם֙ means a Ruddy or Human Being, and simply this means nature of Man comparing the Nature of God. It doesn't say anything about the divinity of Christ before his human nature but rather it says it was all about him as God who is superior and above human. And this Job Bautista Never understand that is just because he wants to compare Christ in his human form to His Father as the God of all Spirit. That doesn't work and of course Christ during his ministry did leave his glory just to become human to suffer afflictions as human. This INC member could never comprehend that because they don't understand how atonement works and why Christ need to suffer even as human suffer.

Ang pinagbabatayan ng Lds cult na ang Diyos daw ay naglikha ng tao ayon sa kanyang wangis ? Hindi maaaring ihambing ang Diyos sa wangis ng tao dahil ang tao may iba’t ibang anyo may pangit at maganda  may maitim at maputi . Wrong! God Created us in his image and in that simple understand, the image of Male and Female is the same image as gods on how he created them as His Sons and Daughter. This Job Bautista has too much fallacy and poor exegesis on the scriptures. Kaya mali ang batayan ng mga kulto na Lds. Ang tinutukoy po dyan na kawangis ay ang Diyos ay Banal kaya magpakabanal ang Tao na kanyang nilikha . Fail! that doesn't say anything about Creation but rather it says something about the purpose of man. You fail many times already, can you give a good shot on interpreting the scriptures? Use your head and don't rely on INC man-made doctrine. You people with Bigot attitude will never understand the scriptures is you continue with that kind of attitude. Just remind you. Kaya nilinaw ni Apostol Pablo sa kanyang pagtuturo na ang Diyos ay walang kamatayan at hindi nakikita ayon sa 1 Timoteo 1:17.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Yea Sure, and How do you understand the same epistle of Paul to Timothy that says about Christ? Here's the Text -

1 Timothy 6
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

I does say something about Christ as Immortal, Unseen or Invisible, The King of kings and Lord of lords, Who has honour and power everlasting. Does is say something about 1 Timothy 1:17. Pretty sure it does, but you don't understands it. See how you fail miserably?

Kaya hindi rin pasado sa kabanalan itong kinikilala nilang Propeta na si Joseph smith dahil hindi ito namuhay sa kabanalan  kundi siya po ay nabuhay sa kahalayan naging sugapa sa babae at siya ang pasimuno ng doktrina na polygamy isang doktrina ng demonyo na dumaya sa kanila ayon sa Rev. 12:9. Revelation 12:9 has nothing to do with the Church and the doctrine, and has nothing to do with Joseph Smith. You just simply assume by simply grabbing something out of the text in the scriptures. Too weak Job Bautista. Kaya napakalinaw na ang aral ng Lds church ay aral ng kulto at aral ng Anti-Cristo. And until you fail you still manage to turn the topic into a false accusation. This is how you people never understand the truth because of your teachings on scorning, lying and deceiving. This has been the only living proof that you can't make a healthy discussion and end up calling someone false without any proof.

In conclusion, I don't think you understood the scriptures very well of maybe some ministers are trying to inject that in your mind the principle that has nothing to do in Christ Deity. We believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, the Savior, Redeemer, judge and the Holy One of Israel, that's not ordinary man, but rather a God who was with the Father in the Beginning. Thank you and have a wonderful day. 

Job Bautista undying misinterpretation: Jesus not God Theory

And here we go again in there wrong understanding about the scriptures. Here let's try each scripture debunking his words by simply helping our friend understand it. The colored text are my comment. Follow the text below - 

Pagbubunyag sa maling aral na tinataguyod ng Lds Church ni Joseph Smith: 

Ayon sa huwad na aklat ( BOM) na ang Diyos daw nila ay si Panginoong Jesucristo? (I don't think you need to question something you already knew) Ayon sa Mosiah 7:27 "And because he said unto them that Christ was the God, the Father of all things, and said that he should take upon him the image of man, and it should be the image after which man was created in the beginning; or in other words, he said that man was created after the image of God, and that God should come down among the children of men, and take upon him flesh and blood, and go forth upon the face of the earth—". Ito po ay labag sa nakasulat sa Biblia maging man si Panginoong Jesucristo ay may  kinikilalang Diyos (I don't see how this verse contradicting something that has biblical relevance, so far the only thing I saw was there misinterpretations and assumption) ayon sa Juan 20:17, Mateo 27:46 na kanyang sinasamba ayon sa Juan 4:22. (by quoting this verses, he assumes Christ's words were merely his divine nature while he was in a mortal state. Though Christ is the Son of God, he never claim higher in authority as the Father, but rather honor the father and address as God since he was the God of All Spirit. Let's take a look each verses and see what he meant. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. The letter in Bold Text shows how he's trying to claim that Christ was indeed human because the Father is his God, and therefore Christ is not God since there should be one whom everyone must worship. But he fail to analyzed that Christ never said anything about him and his divinity, but rather directing the audience that there is a Father who is much superior to him. This first assumption made him think of Christ as a mere human in nature, never realized that he was already risen from the dead. And here's the second he quoted in Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I already replied his comment about this one, so I'll add a screenshot about it. Anyway, Christ is simply quoting Psalm 22:1 in fulfilling the writings of the Prophets and at the same time, he shows us that though God the Father, can save him anytime he wants, and yet God the Father choose to suffer his Son Jesus Christ to feel the pains and anguish, and that, the only way to fulfill the atonement is to let him suffer as human suffer the pains and death that perhaps he could comprehend every human soul who suffers the same thing. But here our INC friend is trying to twist the subject not knowing how Christ shoulders all of our afflictions. And for the last quote it says, John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. I don't think this is the subject he meant, but I guess it should be on the next verse. Let's add it here to help him out, John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Alright, so I guess he made some brain game, that speculates Christ Teaching which leads us to analyzed on his words. Let's deal with it. Okay, so here Christ is talking to a Samaritan or a people of mixed culture and religion of Gentile and Israelite. Though Samaritans are actively observing the Laws and Prophets 2 Kings 17:24-41, this people practice traditions and the Hope for the coming of Messiah. Christ made a conversation to a Samaritan woman and was impressed in their faith, if we try to go back to Matthew 10:5 Christ Commanded his Apostle to go not into the City of Samaritan. Their different belief or practices were considered Pagans. Yet Christ knew something about their faith of the Messiah. To shorten the story, Christ made himself known to them and of course introduced his doctrine and the Father whom they should worship in Spirit. Christ plainly states that God the Father is the father of Spirit that doesn't mean his not divine. If further reading on that same chapter, The Samaritan knew the savior and they knew it was him who was prophesied by the prophet of old that will come to fulfill their words as the God and Savior. Kung ating itutuloy pa ang pagbasa sa Mosiah 7:27 Na itong  Diyos raw nila na si Panginoong Jesucristo ay ang Ama ng lahat ng bagay ? Ito po ay sumasalungat sa turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo na ang Ama ang tunay na Diyos ayon sa Juan 17:1,3. Nang siya ay tumingala sa langit . No it doesn't contradict, and it only shows how poor your understanding about Christ divinity and Calling. Christ was also address as the Everlasting Father, since he was the father of Gospel and we made covenant with God through Him. But that  doesn't says he is greater than God nor it says something about worshiping him as our God, the Father of our spirit. Anyway, to answer your confusion of scriptures you brought, in John 17:1 it says -

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

I added verse 5 to complete the meaning and Job Bautista seems hiding some of it to avoid Christ calling and divinity. The Scripture taught us about Christ Divinity and God the Father as the God of our spirit. This means that Christ was sent for to atone from our sins, but he was with God before he was born. 

At ang karugtong pa na sinasabi sa Mosiah 7:27 na ang Diyos ay nag anyong tao? And there's no question about it, the word was God and the Word was made flesh. Christ was the Word and one of the witnessing heaven. Isang maliwanag na naman na salungat na naman sa Hosea 11:9 na ang Diyos ay hindi tao at maging ang turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo siya ay Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply twisting it think Christ words as absolute. You need to break it down to understand it. Lets try to see how it was said

Hosea 11:9 (ESV) I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in wrath.

Understanding this verse is simple if you came up to analyze the nature of God and the nature of Man. Of course, God is not a man in nature and will stand above to His creation. Unlike human whose understanding are limited to things he knows now and incapable of things compare to God's limitless power.

And in John 8:40 let's analyzed that words and understand what Christ really meant -

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Does this say something about Christ as human nature or a simple conversation to let the Jews understand him? If you read further you will come to realized the reason why Christ wanted to be stoned by his own people because of blasphemy, and blasphemy mean to make himself as a God.

Kaya ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi maaaring magka ka salungat sila ni Panginoong Jesucristo sa pagtuturo kaya kung inyong mapapansin ay consistent ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi Tao ayon sa Hosea 11:9, at si Panginoong Jesucristo ay isang Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan na narinig niya sa Diyos ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures. It's all about nature of God and besides, Christ is in Human state or form and he doesn't have any glory during his proclamation. You simply misunderstood Christ words and adapt it to your INC Doctrine of man. That seems very ignorant. Understand the scripture and how it was said will guide you to know who Christ is and his divine calling as the Son of God and not a mere human. Maging man si Propeta Ezekiel nag turo na ang Tao ay hindi Diyos at ang Diyos ay hindi Tao. Ezekiel 28:2. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures, Ezekiel 28:2 says this 

“Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In the pride of your heart you say, “I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas.” But you are a mere mortal and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god.

Let's try to see how the Hebrew understands it -

“Son
בֶּן־ (ben-)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1121: A son

of man,
אָדָ֡ם (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

tell
אֱמֹר֩ (’ĕ·mōr)
Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

the ruler
לִנְגִ֨יד (lin·ḡîḏ)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 5057: A commander, civil, military, religious, honorable themes

of Tyre
צֹ֜ר (ṣōr)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 6865: Tyre -- a Phoenician city

that this is what
כֹּֽה־ (kōh-)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

the Lord
אֲדֹנָ֣י (’ă·ḏō·nāy)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 136: The Lord

GOD
יְהֹוִ֗ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3069: YHWH

says:
אָמַ֣ר ׀ (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

‘Your heart
לִבְּךָ֙ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

is proud,
גָּבַ֤הּ (gā·ḇah)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1361: To soar, be lofty, to be haughty

and you have said,
וַתֹּ֙אמֶר֙ (wat·tō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“I
אָ֔נִי (’ā·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am a god;
אֵ֣ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

I sit
יָשַׁ֖בְתִּי (yā·šaḇ·tî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3427: To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry

in the seat
מוֹשַׁ֧ב (mō·wō·šaḇ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 4186: A seat, assembly, dwelling place, dwelling, dwellers

of gods
אֱלֹהִ֛ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

in the heart
בְּלֵ֣ב (bə·lêḇ)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of the sea.”
יַמִּ֑ים (yam·mîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 3220: A sea, the Mediterranean Sea, large river, an artifical basin

Yet you
וְאַתָּ֤ה (wə·’at·tāh)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - second person masculine singular
Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you

are a man
אָדָם֙ (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

and not
וְֽלֹא־ (wə·lō-)
Conjunctive waw | Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

a god,
אֵ֔ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

though you have regarded
וַתִּתֵּ֥ן (wat·tit·tên)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

your heart
לִבְּךָ֖ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

as that
כְּלֵ֥ב (kə·lêḇ)
Preposition-k | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of a god.
אֱלֹהִֽים׃ (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative


What does it says? The word אָדָם֙ means a Ruddy or Human Being, and simply this means nature of Man comparing the Nature of God. It doesn't say anything about the divinity of Christ before his human nature but rather it says it was all about him as God who is superior and above human. And this Job Bautista Never understand that is just because he wants to compare Christ in his human form to His Father as the God of all Spirit. That doesn't work and of course Christ during his ministry did leave his glory just to become human to suffer afflictions as human. This INC member could never comprehend that because they don't understand how atonement works and why Christ need to suffer even as human suffer.

Ang pinagbabatayan ng Lds cult na ang Diyos daw ay naglikha ng tao ayon sa kanyang wangis ? Hindi maaaring ihambing ang Diyos sa wangis ng tao dahil ang tao may iba’t ibang anyo may pangit at maganda  may maitim at maputi . Wrong! God Created us in his image and in that simple understand, the image of Male and Female is the same image as gods on how he created them as His Sons and Daughter. This Job Bautista has too much fallacy and poor exegesis on the scriptures. Kaya mali ang batayan ng mga kulto na Lds. Ang tinutukoy po dyan na kawangis ay ang Diyos ay Banal kaya magpakabanal ang Tao na kanyang nilikha . Fail! that doesn't say anything about Creation but rather it says something about the purpose of man. You fail many times already, can you give a good shot on interpreting the scriptures? Use your head and don't rely on INC man-made doctrine. You people with Bigot attitude will never understand the scriptures is you continue with that kind of attitude. Just remind you. Kaya nilinaw ni Apostol Pablo sa kanyang pagtuturo na ang Diyos ay walang kamatayan at hindi nakikita ayon sa 1 Timoteo 1:17.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Yea Sure, and How do you understand the same epistle of Paul to Timothy that says about Christ? Here's the Text -

1 Timothy 6
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

I does say something about Christ as Immortal, Unseen or Invisible, The King of kings and Lord of lords, Who has honour and power everlasting. Does is say something about 1 Timothy 1:17. Pretty sure it does, but you don't understands it. See how you fail miserably?

Kaya hindi rin pasado sa kabanalan itong kinikilala nilang Propeta na si Joseph smith dahil hindi ito namuhay sa kabanalan  kundi siya po ay nabuhay sa kahalayan naging sugapa sa babae at siya ang pasimuno ng doktrina na polygamy isang doktrina ng demonyo na dumaya sa kanila ayon sa Rev. 12:9. Revelation 12:9 has nothing to do with the Church and the doctrine, and has nothing to do with Joseph Smith. You just simply assume by simply grabbing something out of the text in the scriptures. Too weak Job Bautista. Kaya napakalinaw na ang aral ng Lds church ay aral ng kulto at aral ng Anti-Cristo. And until you fail you still manage to turn the topic into a false accusation. This is how you people never understand the truth because of your teachings on scorning, lying and deceiving. This has been the only living proof that you can't make a healthy discussion and end up calling someone false without any proof.

In conclusion, I don't think you understood the scriptures very well of maybe some ministers are trying to inject that in your mind the principle that has nothing to do in Christ Deity. We believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, the Savior, Redeemer, judge and the Holy One of Israel, that's not ordinary man, but rather a God who was with the Father in the Beginning. Thank you and have a wonderful day. 

Some True Bug



You have heard someone call it Assassin Bug, and some others Kissing Bugs or maybe bedbugs. LOL! But actually this are True Bugs. Why was that, this insect used their sucking tube (proboscis) to earn a living. Some type of True Bugs were stinky and some has no odor. The Stink was actually a diversion or a common defense mechanisms for predictors to avoid being eaten. You may find it very friendly since they used tubes as their mouths unlike other insect like Bees or ants used a pincers or mandibles to slice their food. But careless handling of bug such as this could be very disappointing if you don't know which bug it is, this bug could liquefy their food in minutes using their saliva, like assassin bugs that could kill in just seconds and liquefy their victims internal organs and sucks it like juice. It's very painful than an ant sting.


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Watch a short film about Daniel's Knowledge and skill by observing the Laws of that was given to them by the Lord. They were blessed because of obedience.

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Daniel 1
17 ¶ As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
18 Now at the end of the days that the king had said he should bring them in, then the prince of the eunuchs brought them in before Nebuchadnezzar.
19 And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.
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