One of the Best Trash-talkers Minister of INC made some comments regarding Sacrament that he thought are against the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ.
Spoiler Alert! Most of my response to this troll was so direct and sometimes I open up comments with intimidating language reflecting his attitude. If you find some of it, it was just my way of expressing his intent and his rudeness way of conversing.
So, here we go -
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| He tries to make up something that Sacrament or Banal na hapunan (in their terminology) were not supposed to be for children. There are a couple of Explanation on this and the Troll Neil Andi Anderson thinks it is an LDS doctrine. I don't think he knows anything about Sacrament in which he is trying to relate it to their Banal na Hapunan. |
Let's get to it -
The first is the Covenants. The scripture is plain that baptism is to those who have faith and repented of their sins. The sacrament is a remembrance of Christ Atonement and in a renewal of the covenants of a baptized person had made. Normally Sacrament is weekly as part of Sunday Devotion in remembrance of Christ atoning sacrifice with sacred emblems as bread and water symbolize flesh and blood.1 Corinthians 11
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Luke 18
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.
In dictionary terms, the word often means frequently, or short intervals. So, normally it should be done weekly rather than yearly as their Banal na Hapunan tradition of the INC members. But, I don't have time to waste on that thing.
The second is, to teach or set an example to our children the right way, Train them that someday they will know the ways of righteousness.
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
It's not a big deal and there's no scriptural support that says little children are not allowed.
Little children and investigators don't have any Covenants yet, but we are not limiting the sacrament exclusive for members accountable for their covenants.
Yes, sacraments are to those members who made the Covenants with God and renew it often. There's no such Doctrine not to let them (children and investigators) partake, it does not affect them since they don't know what covenant they should keep. It only affects those who already made a covenant with God but fail to keep it. Learn the difference Neil Andi Anderson (See 1 Corinthians 11:27-29)
The question to this INC troll Neil Andi Anderson is, Is it bad to teach the children the way of the Lord?
I don't think so unless you're teaching your children the wrong way to worship in your congregation as part of your belief. But, don't relate that to my belief.
Here's another from the Book of Mormon for the record -
Mosiah 4:14 And ye will not suffer your children that they go hungry, or naked; neither will ye suffer that they transgress the laws of God, and fight and quarrel one with another, and serve the devil, who is the master of sin, or who is the evil spirit which hath been spoken of by our fathers, he being an enemy to all righteousness.
15 But ye will teach them to walk in the ways of truth and soberness; ye will teach them to love one another, and to serve one another.
So, what's it all about? It was all about teaching young children and being an example to them, Neil Andi Anderson, you said you're a former Mormon, and you should have learned that in the first place. But perhaps you have a problem in accepting the truth and in setting a good example for your children. Here is another story from a Gentile writer and believer called Luke. Funny how you define Gentile as a people who don't recognize God, and yet you're a Gentile. But here's his version of Christ story -
15 But ye will teach them to walk in the ways of truth and soberness; ye will teach them to love one another, and to serve one another.
So, what's it all about? It was all about teaching young children and being an example to them, Neil Andi Anderson, you said you're a former Mormon, and you should have learned that in the first place. But perhaps you have a problem in accepting the truth and in setting a good example for your children. Here is another story from a Gentile writer and believer called Luke. Funny how you define Gentile as a people who don't recognize God, and yet you're a Gentile. But here's his version of Christ story -
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Do you understand now Neil Andi Anderson? Christ himself wants the little children to come unto him and never forbid them whatever the right way for them to know the savior. The Church is too concerned for the younger generation that even parents are instructed to be a good example for them and shows them which things are right and best for them.
Parents, now is the time to teach our children to be examples of the believers by attending sacrament meeting. When Sunday morning arrives, help them to be well rested, properly dressed, and spiritually prepared to partake of the emblems of the sacrament and receive the enlightening, edifying, ennobling power of the Holy Ghost. Let your family be filled with love as you honor the Sabbath all day long and experience its spiritual blessings throughout the week. Invite your sons and daughters to “arise and shine forth” by keeping the Sabbath day holy, that “[their] light may be a standard for the nations.”
Parents, now is the time to teach our children to be examples of the believers by attending sacrament meeting. When Sunday morning arrives, help them to be well rested, properly dressed, and spiritually prepared to partake of the emblems of the sacrament and receive the enlightening, edifying, ennobling power of the Holy Ghost. Let your family be filled with love as you honor the Sabbath all day long and experience its spiritual blessings throughout the week. Invite your sons and daughters to “arise and shine forth” by keeping the Sabbath day holy, that “[their] light may be a standard for the nations.”
By L. Tom Perry, April 2011, The Sabbath and the Sacrament
So, my message to you Neil Andi Anderson, and if you are trolling around showing how dirty the INC Doctrine is by simply posting pieces of information you don't even know how it goes. GROW UP AND GET A LIFE. You're too immature to tell someone to change and yet you got a lot of mote in your eye if you declare yourself save as you think you are, then act as one being saved rather than a demon foul-mouthed INC member.
So, my message to you Neil Andi Anderson, and if you are trolling around showing how dirty the INC Doctrine is by simply posting pieces of information you don't even know how it goes. GROW UP AND GET A LIFE. You're too immature to tell someone to change and yet you got a lot of mote in your eye if you declare yourself save as you think you are, then act as one being saved rather than a demon foul-mouthed INC member.
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| See how ignorant you are? You define it wrong. Don't call yourself a Jew, 'cause you are not. |
