Responding Carmen B. Stiller: Part 2 (Christ VS God)

Now here's the another one from Carmen Stiller. She's comparing Christ former state not minding his current state sitting in God throne. Funny who she tries to defame Christ through their ideology and yet claimed to be Christian.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

Distinguishing God from Christ

So here she goes with her title. Let's see what we can get - 

God who created all things has no beginning; He is from everlasting to everlasting.

“Before the mountains were born and before you created the earth and the world, you are God. You have always been, and you will always be.” Psalm 90:2

VS.

Jesus Christ Came From God.

“Jesus said to them, "If God were really your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority; God sent me.” John 8:42

Was it really that way? When Christ says he came from God does it meant he was created BY God? Let's try to look at this passage to know more about Christ.

Colossians 11:6 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Hebrew 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

More of this topic is on this link on our conversation with Job Bautista, who didn't even answer this article straight. Check out to see the rest -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2021/09/job-bautista-christ-creator.html

Okay, so the next topic she opens up below -

God is immortal.

“To the King that rules forever, who will never die, who cannot be seen, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” 1 Timothy 1:17

 VS.

Jesus died on the cross.

“When Jesus tasted the vinegar, he said, "It is finished." Then he bowed his head and died. But when the soldiers came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.” John 19:30, 33

Didn't you even think that Christ current situation is in immortal state? You keep looking backward not minding how Christ fulfilled and conquer death.

Anyway, let's try to look at this scripture to see how it fits -

1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

So, who's immortal now? In fact, if you read that epistle of Paul to Timothy from his first letter, chapter 1 has it already on its first few verses before you quote v17 were Christ is the subject. But you missed that spot. So here's how it says -

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Basically, if you try to understand that letter to Timothy, Christ was the subject. But of course you have your own opinion by just simply following your doctrine and not biblical. But this has disputes you even 1 Timothy 6:14-15.

Moving forward, he seem to exaggerate the topic by simply saying Christ is just a human who's subject of sickness, fainted, pain, death, etc., I don't know how this group understand Christ while in human form need to suffer as human to fulfill the mission. But let's try to see her comments first before I get my response -

The Almighty God neither grows tired nor weary.

“Surely you know. Surely you have heard. The Lord is the God who lives forever, who created all the world. He does not become tired or need to rest. No one can understand how great his wisdom is.” Isaiah 40:28

 VS.

Jesus Christ wearied or grew tired.

“Jacob's well was there. Jesus was tired from his long trip, so he sat down beside the well. It was about twelve o'clock noon.” John. 4:6

Oh, come on! Is this the best scriptures to prove Christ is merely a human and not a God?

If that's an excuse then let's try to see how God the creator rested his labor after the creation.

Genesis 2:1-3

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

And God blessed the seventh day, aa was qand sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Let's just skipped that part. There are reasons why Christ need to suffer as Human, subjected to pain, sickness, suffering. The atonement wouldn't be completed without a human experience.

God is spirit, without flesh and bones.

“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”John. 4:24 “Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have a living body as you see I have."” Luke 24:39

VS.

Jesus Christ is a man having flesh“

Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have a living body as you see I have.” Luke 24:39 “I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God, but you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that.” John. 8:40

Seem like you're misinformed. This subject has been a forever Doctrine of INC proving Christ can't be God by just simply saying he has a human body in heaven. Such a poor ideology, but I'll make a response to this one for Carmen's sake -

First of all, understand how the text written will leads you to know the nature of God, John 4:24 is supposed to be translated as "God is Spirit" without "A" in greek manuscript. But let's skip to that first to help her out. Here's the thing, was it literal? If it was literal, then consider the rest of the phrase is literal. It says "those who worship him MUST worship in spirit and truth". So, how are you gonna worship God in spirit while you are still inside your body? Haven't you think about it?

More of this topic at this links on our conversation with Nick Gasga Reyes -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2022/01/god-is-spirit.html

And with Job Baustista -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2022/09/god-cant-bee-seen.html

Okay, so the next one is, uhm!? Just don't know what to say about it. I'm thinkin', did You really read the scriptures? I just don't get it? Why are we still in this topic while I already made my point about Christ and his nature?

Okay, So let's try this one -

God knows no other God besides himself.

“Don't be afraid! Don't worry! I have always told you what will happen.You are my witnesses. There is no other God but me. I know of no other Rock; I am the only One."” Isaiah 44:8

VS.

Jesus Christ called upon the Father and acknowledged Him as the only true God.

“At three o'clock Jesus cried in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani." This means, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"” Mark 15:34

“After Jesus said these things, he looked toward heaven and prayed, "Father, the time has come. Give glory to your Son so that the Son can give glory to you. And this is eternal life: that people know you, the only true God, and that they know Jesus Christ, the One you sent.” John 17:1, 3

Alright, so let's try to understand the text to comprehend the scriptures.

Isaiah 44:8 in KJV that I use has a different text, and I don't know which translation she use in that comment, but let's consider that.

Notice on how It says about there's no other rock according to the translation you use. If so, then why did it change in the New Testament? Why did the apostles address him as the rock?

1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

So, you know already whose the rock they're talking to in the Old Testament?

God is above all, He is subject to no one.

“There is one God and Father of everything. He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything.” Ephesians 4:6

 VS.

Jesus Christ, the son of God, is subject to God the Father.

“After everything has been put under the Son, then he will put himself under God, who had put all things under him. Then God will be the complete ruler over everything. But I want you to understand this: The head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God.” 1 Corinthians 15:28, 11:3

Exactly how it goes, Christ is the God of this world who was appointed by the Father to put everything under him. This alone refutes your ideology of just one God while everything is subjected to Christ. The only thing that INC missed is to understand the message of the scriptures. It was Christ whom the prophets believe who redeem his people, who Created all things, who will save his people.

In conclusion, the only thing that I can see in which Carmen B. Stiller comparing Christ to his Father as a mere human versus to a most powerful God, is absurdity. She never realized how Christ fulfil the writings of the scriptures. Deepening the knowledge or understand the contents and Context of the scriptures will leads you to know the truth. That's my encouragement to you Carmen B. Stiller and to the rest of the reader.

Responding Carmen B. Stiller: Part 2 (Christ VS God)

Now here's the another one from Carmen Stiller. She's comparing Christ former state not minding his current state sitting in God throne. Funny who she tries to defame Christ through their ideology and yet claimed to be Christian.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

Distinguishing God from Christ

So here she goes with her title. Let's see what we can get - 

God who created all things has no beginning; He is from everlasting to everlasting.

“Before the mountains were born and before you created the earth and the world, you are God. You have always been, and you will always be.” Psalm 90:2

VS.

Jesus Christ Came From God.

“Jesus said to them, "If God were really your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority; God sent me.” John 8:42

Was it really that way? When Christ says he came from God does it meant he was created BY God? Let's try to look at this passage to know more about Christ.

Colossians 11:6 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Hebrew 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

More of this topic is on this link on our conversation with Job Bautista, who didn't even answer this article straight. Check out to see the rest -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2021/09/job-bautista-christ-creator.html

Okay, so the next topic she opens up below -

God is immortal.

“To the King that rules forever, who will never die, who cannot be seen, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” 1 Timothy 1:17

 VS.

Jesus died on the cross.

“When Jesus tasted the vinegar, he said, "It is finished." Then he bowed his head and died. But when the soldiers came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.” John 19:30, 33

Didn't you even think that Christ current situation is in immortal state? You keep looking backward not minding how Christ fulfilled and conquer death.

Anyway, let's try to look at this scripture to see how it fits -

1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

So, who's immortal now? In fact, if you read that epistle of Paul to Timothy from his first letter, chapter 1 has it already on its first few verses before you quote v17 were Christ is the subject. But you missed that spot. So here's how it says -

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Basically, if you try to understand that letter to Timothy, Christ was the subject. But of course you have your own opinion by just simply following your doctrine and not biblical. But this has disputes you even 1 Timothy 6:14-15.

Moving forward, he seem to exaggerate the topic by simply saying Christ is just a human who's subject of sickness, fainted, pain, death, etc., I don't know how this group understand Christ while in human form need to suffer as human to fulfill the mission. But let's try to see her comments first before I get my response -

The Almighty God neither grows tired nor weary.

“Surely you know. Surely you have heard. The Lord is the God who lives forever, who created all the world. He does not become tired or need to rest. No one can understand how great his wisdom is.” Isaiah 40:28

 VS.

Jesus Christ wearied or grew tired.

“Jacob's well was there. Jesus was tired from his long trip, so he sat down beside the well. It was about twelve o'clock noon.” John. 4:6

Oh, come on! Is this the best scriptures to prove Christ is merely a human and not a God?

If that's an excuse then let's try to see how God the creator rested his labor after the creation.

Genesis 2:1-3

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

And God blessed the seventh day, aa was qand sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Let's just skipped that part. There are reasons why Christ need to suffer as Human, subjected to pain, sickness, suffering. The atonement wouldn't be completed without a human experience.

God is spirit, without flesh and bones.

“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”John. 4:24 “Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have a living body as you see I have."” Luke 24:39

VS.

Jesus Christ is a man having flesh“

Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have a living body as you see I have.” Luke 24:39 “I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God, but you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that.” John. 8:40

Seem like you're misinformed. This subject has been a forever Doctrine of INC proving Christ can't be God by just simply saying he has a human body in heaven. Such a poor ideology, but I'll make a response to this one for Carmen's sake -

First of all, understand how the text written will leads you to know the nature of God, John 4:24 is supposed to be translated as "God is Spirit" without "A" in greek manuscript. But let's skip to that first to help her out. Here's the thing, was it literal? If it was literal, then consider the rest of the phrase is literal. It says "those who worship him MUST worship in spirit and truth". So, how are you gonna worship God in spirit while you are still inside your body? Haven't you think about it?

More of this topic at this links on our conversation with Nick Gasga Reyes -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2022/01/god-is-spirit.html

And with Job Baustista -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2022/09/god-cant-bee-seen.html

Okay, so the next one is, uhm!? Just don't know what to say about it. I'm thinkin', did You really read the scriptures? I just don't get it? Why are we still in this topic while I already made my point about Christ and his nature?

Okay, So let's try this one -

God knows no other God besides himself.

“Don't be afraid! Don't worry! I have always told you what will happen.You are my witnesses. There is no other God but me. I know of no other Rock; I am the only One."” Isaiah 44:8

VS.

Jesus Christ called upon the Father and acknowledged Him as the only true God.

“At three o'clock Jesus cried in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani." This means, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"” Mark 15:34

“After Jesus said these things, he looked toward heaven and prayed, "Father, the time has come. Give glory to your Son so that the Son can give glory to you. And this is eternal life: that people know you, the only true God, and that they know Jesus Christ, the One you sent.” John 17:1, 3

Alright, so let's try to understand the text to comprehend the scriptures.

Isaiah 44:8 in KJV that I use has a different text, and I don't know which translation she use in that comment, but let's consider that.

Notice on how It says about there's no other rock according to the translation you use. If so, then why did it change in the New Testament? Why did the apostles address him as the rock?

1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

So, you know already whose the rock they're talking to in the Old Testament?

God is above all, He is subject to no one.

“There is one God and Father of everything. He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything.” Ephesians 4:6

 VS.

Jesus Christ, the son of God, is subject to God the Father.

“After everything has been put under the Son, then he will put himself under God, who had put all things under him. Then God will be the complete ruler over everything. But I want you to understand this: The head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God.” 1 Corinthians 15:28, 11:3

Exactly how it goes, Christ is the God of this world who was appointed by the Father to put everything under him. This alone refutes your ideology of just one God while everything is subjected to Christ. The only thing that INC missed is to understand the message of the scriptures. It was Christ whom the prophets believe who redeem his people, who Created all things, who will save his people.

In conclusion, the only thing that I can see in which Carmen B. Stiller comparing Christ to his Father as a mere human versus to a most powerful God, is absurdity. She never realized how Christ fulfil the writings of the scriptures. Deepening the knowledge or understand the contents and Context of the scriptures will leads you to know the truth. That's my encouragement to you Carmen B. Stiller and to the rest of the reader.

Responding Carmen B. Stiller: Part 1 (A God Mormon knew)

Here's an antagonist who seems to think she knows anything about LDS or Mormonism as she calls it. Let's see how her comments and finds out if she Really has something on the table. Without further adieu let's dive in. Green fonts are her comments -

"ANG DIYOS NA KINIKILALA NG MGA MORMON, KARANIWANG TINATAWAG NA, CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS!"

Okay, so here she named her post "Ang Dios Kinikilala ng mga Mormon..." Did she really knows anything about the God we worship? Let's find it out.

Sa kanilang aklat na Mormon Doctrine:

"Three separate personages --- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists, To us, speaking in the process finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods."

Sa Tagalog:

"Tatlong katauhang magkakahiwalay --- Ama, Anak, at Espiritu Santo --- ang bumubuo ng pagka-Diyos. Dahil sa ang bawa't personang ito ay isang Diyos, malinaw, sa pagkaunawaang ito lamang na may umiiral na maraming Diyos. Sa ganang amin, sa abot sa ng aming pang-unawa, ang tatlong Diyos na ito ang tanging sinasamba namin. Subali't bilang karagatan, mayroong di mabilang na mga banal na personahe, na hinango mula sa mga daigdig na walang bilang, na nakasulit sa pagpapadakila at sumakatuwid ay mga diyos. (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576 - 577).

Okay, first of all Mormon Doctrine is a compiled documentary/Commentary of Bruce R. McConkie. The church never claim it a standard doctrine or official writings of Prophets and apostles. In fact, it is just like INC use Jorge Lamsa translation of Acts 20:28 then uses his documentary to support the idea of Jorge Lamsa's translation, but deny Hebrew 1:8 of the same translation. That's how INC chose the best cherry for the sake of Unitarianism.

From Mormon Doctrine of Bruce R. McConkie

But anyway, to satisfy her points and since I am responding her criticisms. Yes, it is true, we believe that there were three who bare records in heaven [1 John 5:7], and biblically, Christ, the Father and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings. Let me try to elaborate that for you. Matthew 12 says this -

31 ¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Now here's the idea, the scripture says that Christ has the power to forgive sin. So, why can't he forgive or save men from damnation if they blaspheme the Holy Ghost? Also, Christ even has the All Power in Heaven and in Earth [Matthew 28:18]. So why can't save someone who transgress against the Holy Ghost? Another one on Christ declaration of sending the Apostle to the Nation. Matthew 28 says this -

19 ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

If God is the Spirit, so what's the use of including the Holy Ghost in such declaration? Why wouldn't just say "Baptized them in the name of the Father and the Son" period(.) But rather include the Holy Ghost on the List. What's the idea actually?

Anyways, I don't have enough space to fill this entire blog. I'll be adding that subject on different article soon.

Let's move forward to see the rest of the comments -

1 + 1 + 1 = 3 

MORMON BELIEVE IN THREE SEPARATE PERSONAGES EQUALS ONE GOD.

Okay, so how was that mathematical computation makes any sense? That's how people solves that math, so what gives?

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

Niño S. Tandoy 

"HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND WORSHIPING THE TRUE GOD?"

I don't know what her question all about or what is she up to. But I think this has something to do with Christ as human not God to be worship, and yet INC worship him just because God told them to do so. Seriously? What's the issue of Christ deification?

"GOD HIMSELF HAS PROCLAIMED:"

Isaiah 40:25 (NIV)

“To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.

Isaiah 45:5 (KJV)

"I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me:"

Okay Isaiah 40:25, 45:5, so do you understand what you're quoting? Alright so let's get this scripture straight. Here's some additional Trivia for you -

The word "Holy one", was mentioned more than 50 times both in Old and New Testament. Aside from God, Angels and Saints, it was also referred and addressed to Christ during and even after his ministry. (See some reference below)

Mark 1:24; Luke 4:34

Acts 2:22-27; 3:14

Using Isaiah 40:25 let's try KJV Lexicon and see how it was meant -

To whom then will ye liken - damah (daw-maw') to compare; by implication, to resemble, liken, consider -- compare, devise, (be) like(-n), mean, think, use similitudes.

me or shall I be equal - shavah (shaw-vaw') to level, i.e. equalize; figuratively, to resemble; by implication, to adjust (i.e. counterbalance, be suitable, compose, place, yield, etc.)

saith - 'amar (aw-mar') to say (used with great latitude)

the Holy One - qadowsh (kaw-doshe') sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary -- holy (One), saint.

Here the text simply says "Who should we compare God or equal in him?" Christ simply answers that during his confrontation with some Jewish Leaders who tries to corner him with blasphemy. Christ said -

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

John 10:34-35 

Christ is simply quoting Psalm 82:6 using the phrase "I said" (in which suppose has something to do with his existence) instead of "I have said" it refers back to the actual quote, that the Jews (or could be this time an INC member) who never understood the scriptures.

Additional from Commentaries, this is what Isaiah meant -

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

40:18-26 Whatever we esteem or love, fear or hope in, more than God, that creature we make equal with God, though we do not make images or worship them. He that is so poor, that he has scarcely a sacrifice to offer, yet will not be without a god of his own. They spared no cost upon their idols; we grudge what is spent in the service of our God. To prove the greatness of God, the prophet appeals to all ages and nations. Those who are ignorant of this, are willingly ignorant. God has the command of all creatures, and of all created things. The prophet directs us to use our reason as well as our senses; to consider who created the hosts of heaven, and to pay our homage to Him. Not one fails to fulfil his will. And let us not forget, that He spake all the promises, and engaged to perform them.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

To whom then will ye liken me? - (See Isaiah 40:18) The prophet having thus set forth the majesty and glory of God, asks now with great emphasis, what could be an adequate and proper representation of such a God. And if God was such a Being, how great was the folly of idolatry, and how vain all their confidence in the gods which their own hands had made.

Matthew Poole's Commentary

He repeateth what he said Isaiah 40:18, that he might oblige them to the more serious and frequent consideration of the absurdity of the idolatry.

In conclusion, she added some mathematical illustration that seems not even making any sense. But let's just think it this way, if God was Called by Christ as the Father, then whose son is He? Mary son, or the Son of God? The scripture also thought us that Christ was setting in God's throne, while some INC try to bend the subject regarding Hebrews 1:8 of Christ as God to "God is your throne". If so, then how was the son of man been able to sit in God's throne?

👉THOSE WHO PREACH 

1 x 1 x 1 = FATHER x SON x HOLY GHOST = ONE GOD ARE FALSE PREACHERS!

    👇👇👇👇👇

She use this illustration after her comments.
I don't know how relevant is this in a discussion.

Responding Carmen B. Stiller: Part 1 (A God Mormon knew)

Here's an antagonist who seems to think she knows anything about LDS or Mormonism as she calls it. Let's see how her comments and finds out if she Really has something on the table. Without further adieu let's dive in. Green fonts are her comments -

"ANG DIYOS NA KINIKILALA NG MGA MORMON, KARANIWANG TINATAWAG NA, CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS!"

Okay, so here she named her post "Ang Dios Kinikilala ng mga Mormon..." Did she really knows anything about the God we worship? Let's find it out.

Sa kanilang aklat na Mormon Doctrine:

"Three separate personages --- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists, To us, speaking in the process finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods."

Sa Tagalog:

"Tatlong katauhang magkakahiwalay --- Ama, Anak, at Espiritu Santo --- ang bumubuo ng pagka-Diyos. Dahil sa ang bawa't personang ito ay isang Diyos, malinaw, sa pagkaunawaang ito lamang na may umiiral na maraming Diyos. Sa ganang amin, sa abot sa ng aming pang-unawa, ang tatlong Diyos na ito ang tanging sinasamba namin. Subali't bilang karagatan, mayroong di mabilang na mga banal na personahe, na hinango mula sa mga daigdig na walang bilang, na nakasulit sa pagpapadakila at sumakatuwid ay mga diyos. (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576 - 577).

Okay, first of all Mormon Doctrine is a compiled documentary/Commentary of Bruce R. McConkie. The church never claim it a standard doctrine or official writings of Prophets and apostles. In fact, it is just like INC use Jorge Lamsa translation of Acts 20:28 then uses his documentary to support the idea of Jorge Lamsa's translation, but deny Hebrew 1:8 of the same translation. That's how INC chose the best cherry for the sake of Unitarianism.

From Mormon Doctrine of Bruce R. McConkie

But anyway, to satisfy her points and since I am responding her criticisms. Yes, it is true, we believe that there were three who bare records in heaven [1 John 5:7], and biblically, Christ, the Father and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings. Let me try to elaborate that for you. Matthew 12 says this -

31 ¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Now here's the idea, the scripture says that Christ has the power to forgive sin. So, why can't he forgive or save men from damnation if they blaspheme the Holy Ghost? Also, Christ even has the All Power in Heaven and in Earth [Matthew 28:18]. So why can't save someone who transgress against the Holy Ghost? Another one on Christ declaration of sending the Apostle to the Nation. Matthew 28 says this -

19 ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

If God is the Spirit, so what's the use of including the Holy Ghost in such declaration? Why wouldn't just say "Baptized them in the name of the Father and the Son" period(.) But rather include the Holy Ghost on the List. What's the idea actually?

Anyways, I don't have enough space to fill this entire blog. I'll be adding that subject on different article soon.

Let's move forward to see the rest of the comments -

1 + 1 + 1 = 3 

MORMON BELIEVE IN THREE SEPARATE PERSONAGES EQUALS ONE GOD.

Okay, so how was that mathematical computation makes any sense? That's how people solves that math, so what gives?

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

Niño S. Tandoy 

"HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND WORSHIPING THE TRUE GOD?"

I don't know what her question all about or what is she up to. But I think this has something to do with Christ as human not God to be worship, and yet INC worship him just because God told them to do so. Seriously? What's the issue of Christ deification?

"GOD HIMSELF HAS PROCLAIMED:"

Isaiah 40:25 (NIV)

“To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.

Isaiah 45:5 (KJV)

"I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me:"

Okay Isaiah 40:25, 45:5, so do you understand what you're quoting? Alright so let's get this scripture straight. Here's some additional Trivia for you -

The word "Holy one", was mentioned more than 50 times both in Old and New Testament. Aside from God, Angels and Saints, it was also referred and addressed to Christ during and even after his ministry. (See some reference below)

Mark 1:24; Luke 4:34

Acts 2:22-27; 3:14

Using Isaiah 40:25 let's try KJV Lexicon and see how it was meant -

To whom then will ye liken - damah (daw-maw') to compare; by implication, to resemble, liken, consider -- compare, devise, (be) like(-n), mean, think, use similitudes.

me or shall I be equal - shavah (shaw-vaw') to level, i.e. equalize; figuratively, to resemble; by implication, to adjust (i.e. counterbalance, be suitable, compose, place, yield, etc.)

saith - 'amar (aw-mar') to say (used with great latitude)

the Holy One - qadowsh (kaw-doshe') sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary -- holy (One), saint.

Here the text simply says "Who should we compare God or equal in him?" Christ simply answers that during his confrontation with some Jewish Leaders who tries to corner him with blasphemy. Christ said -

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

John 10:34-35 

Christ is simply quoting Psalm 82:6 using the phrase "I said" (in which suppose has something to do with his existence) instead of "I have said" it refers back to the actual quote, that the Jews (or could be this time an INC member) who never understood the scriptures.

Additional from Commentaries, this is what Isaiah meant -

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

40:18-26 Whatever we esteem or love, fear or hope in, more than God, that creature we make equal with God, though we do not make images or worship them. He that is so poor, that he has scarcely a sacrifice to offer, yet will not be without a god of his own. They spared no cost upon their idols; we grudge what is spent in the service of our God. To prove the greatness of God, the prophet appeals to all ages and nations. Those who are ignorant of this, are willingly ignorant. God has the command of all creatures, and of all created things. The prophet directs us to use our reason as well as our senses; to consider who created the hosts of heaven, and to pay our homage to Him. Not one fails to fulfil his will. And let us not forget, that He spake all the promises, and engaged to perform them.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

To whom then will ye liken me? - (See Isaiah 40:18) The prophet having thus set forth the majesty and glory of God, asks now with great emphasis, what could be an adequate and proper representation of such a God. And if God was such a Being, how great was the folly of idolatry, and how vain all their confidence in the gods which their own hands had made.

Matthew Poole's Commentary

He repeateth what he said Isaiah 40:18, that he might oblige them to the more serious and frequent consideration of the absurdity of the idolatry.

In conclusion, she added some mathematical illustration that seems not even making any sense. But let's just think it this way, if God was Called by Christ as the Father, then whose son is He? Mary son, or the Son of God? The scripture also thought us that Christ was setting in God's throne, while some INC try to bend the subject regarding Hebrews 1:8 of Christ as God to "God is your throne". If so, then how was the son of man been able to sit in God's throne?

👉THOSE WHO PREACH 

1 x 1 x 1 = FATHER x SON x HOLY GHOST = ONE GOD ARE FALSE PREACHERS!

    👇👇👇👇👇

She use this illustration after her comments.
I don't know how relevant is this in a discussion.

General Conference 2022, with My Family.

Okay! Just to have a together picture during our General Conference viewing. Grab my camera and ask them to have some pause. LOL! 😂

 

Alright, so here's some thought for this day, from a conference talk.

We Each Have a Story

General Conference 2022, with My Family.

Okay! Just to have a together picture during our General Conference viewing. Grab my camera and ask them to have some pause. LOL! 😂

 

Alright, so here's some thought for this day, from a conference talk.

We Each Have a Story

Conference Message - October 2022

From a Conference Message of President Russell M. Nelson.

I'd waited a script of his last message during the conference where I found out he said something in his concluding message where he mentioned number of temple soon to be built.

He concluded it with a words "til we meet again" in which sounded like he meant something he's leaving. It could be as what it meant it was or maybe I'm just too sentimental of his words. Anyway, either how it was meant he's words was sent from heaven and I remain a faithful believer of his words.

Focus on the Temple
By President Russell M. Nelson

Living the Gospel of Jesus Christ

This is from General Handbook 16 and this seems to have a perfect point about the lives we live as a saints -

Living the Gospel of Jesus Christ

God’s work of salvation and exaltation focuses on four divinely appointed responsibilities (see 1.2). The first of these is living the gospel of Jesus Christ. We live the gospel as we:

• Exercise faith in Jesus Christ.
• Repent daily.
• Make covenants with God as we receive the ordinances of salvation and exaltation.
• Endure to the end by keeping those covenants.

As we live the gospel and experience the influence of the Holy Ghost, we desire to help family members and others receive God’s blessings (see 1 Nephi 8:10–12). We learn and teach the gospel of Jesus Christ at home and at church. We also seek to become self-reliant in providing for ourselves and our families, both spiritually and temporally.

Living the gospel encompasses the other aspects of the work of salvation and exaltation. These include caring for those in need, inviting all to receive the gospel, and uniting families for eternity.

If anyone who is critical about the saints and the lives they live. Simple answer is, we follow the curriculum of the Lord's Church.