I Am a Child of God: October 2021

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Nothing but Trash: Part 1 (Neil Andi Anderson)

It's been quite some time doing this blog, and I decided to put something that I encountered on some social media. I was surprised by one of the INC members, who was seriously harsh and rude in his conversation. I thought INC were taught to change their lives? But it was just a gimmick. Their mind control begins after they're taught to hate and to talk trash to someone who believes they can't defend their right to religion. Their co-members even support the Mocking or scorning and some fallacious words they love to throw. So here I introduce you to their trashfulness (I don't know if such a word exists). Here are some of the examples that I collected and won't recommend to everyone who wants a healthy discussion it is part of their religious teachings or doctrine to hate everyone who gets on their way.

AD Hominem - most useful attack of INC fake accounts. It's their Natural Manner but they don't like to show it to everyone for the sake of INC Doctrine Number 17. That's why they use a fake account.

Neil Andi Anderson
use the word
"Kasing liit sa utak ng kuto.
Nice Example

Stupidity of lies between us?
Just when did I lie to you, Neil?
It's your teachings and of course I
opposed your man-made doctrine.

Missionary Experience

Part 7 - Job Bautista in Study of John and Revelation: Not to Add or Diminish

Part 4 - Neil Andi Anderson: Bigot Ministry Failure

This arrogant INC member thinks his wise enough to know the truth not knowing how he was brainwashed by their ministers. He think he can manipulate me with his doctrine. These are some of our selected conversations and I'll post it with response with his arrogant comment.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo Ang pag-uugali mo Jerry boy ay puro lamang kamangmangan na nagmamarunong na nagaakala na matalino, you must have a balance of thinking bago mo tanggapin ang karunongan sa isang bible scholars kung may pagtatama ang kanyang pagkakaintindi. So, here goes the another arrogant comments from our friend Neil Andi Anderson, he said something about my commentary regarsing their ministey or doctrine. Look at how absurd? He ask me to have a balance thinking. really? so what do you think I did Neil? Do you find something like LDS doctrine in my post? It's on different source and different views, so how come you think it that way. I'm not quoting something from the LDS doctrine so that it would be fair to discuss just the Bible with you. But I think what you're saying is, to read also your ministry and doctrine. Basahin mo itong talata kung ano ang gagawin ng Diyos sa mga mangmang na tao na nagmamarunong na parang matalino. Basa moron! And look at that ad hominim of a immatured INC Member. ................................................................................................................................................................Sisirain ko ang karunungan ng marurunong at pawawalang kabuluhan ang talino ng matatalino. Actually, this has nothing to do with our topic the last time, but you keep posting irrelevant things and its ok for an immatured guy like you who knows just but a few doctine of your INC.

I'm assuming you quote 1 Corinthians 1:20-23 and I will highlight the text you give and will see how this make sense. Okay, so here we go -

I don't know what are you up to and you posted this verses twice adding some part that I don't even think has the same meaning. See below -

20 Nasaan ang marunong? Nasaan ang guro ng kautusan? Nasaan ang nakikipagtalo ng kapanahunang ito? Hindi ba ang karunungan ng sanlibutang ito ay ginawa ng Diyos na kamangmangan? 21 Ito ay sapagkat sa karunungan ng Diyos, ang sanlibutan ay hindi nakakilala sa Diyos sa pamamagitan ng kanilang karunungan. Dahil dito ikinalugod ng Diyos na iligtas sila na sumasampalataya sa pamamagitan ng kamangmangan ng pangangaral. 22 Ang mga Judio ay humihingi ng tanda at ang mga Griyego ay naghahanap ng karunungan. 23 Ang aming ipinangangaral ay si Cristo na ipinako sa krus. Sa mga Judio siya ay katitisuran, sa mga Griyego siya ay kamangmangan. 24 Sa mga tinawag, Judio at Griyego, siya ay Cristo na siyang kapangyarihan ng Diyos at karunungan ng Diyos. 25 Ito ay sapagkat ang kamangmangan ng Diyos ay higit sa karunungan ng tao at ang kahinaan ng Diyos ay higit sa kalakasan ng tao. 26 Sapagkat nakita ninyo ang inyong pagkatawag, mga kapatid. Iilan lang ang matatalino ayon sa laman, iilan lang ang makapangyarihan, iilan lang ang maharlika na tinawag.

Napakalinaw sa mga talata na di po tayo dapat mananalig sa kanilang karunongan. You're quoting it not knowing how you became a victim of your own minister who brainwashed you what to say, what to read or study, and what to do. Ikaw na moron ka palagi kang nagmamatalino pero isa kang totoong mangmang. And look who's talking, calling someone a moron that make you a circus clown that don't even know what to do. His ad Hominem strikes makes him think he is wise, but it does makes him a fool. The scripture is even address for him and his arrogance.

[1 Corinthians 1]
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

Unity

There's no such thing as UNITY If you choose not to be UNITED.
- Jerry N. Bustillo

Why Abraham leave his Homeland?

The book of Abraham as one of the inspired scriptures translated by Joseph Smith. The LDS claim it as one of the Standard Works or a Holy Scripture, while some others mostly critics found it to be hoax and Joseph Smith was a fraud. Some scholars agree that the papyrus of which the Source of this Book of Abraham were no other than the Book of Breathing. But what amazed us was that how it reconcile some of the ancient writing unknown to Joseph's time.

On the first few verse on the first chapter of The Book of Abraham tells a story about Abraham himself and His father and Why he decide to leave the land where he lived. Let's try to open up some of it and see what we can find -

The Book Of Abraham

[Chapter 1]

In the land of the Chaldeans, at the residence of my fathers, I, Abraham, saw that it was needful for me to obtain another place of residence;

2 And, finding there was greater happiness and peace and rest for me, I sought for the blessings of the fathers, and the right whereunto I should be ordained to administer the same; having been myself a follower of righteousness, desiring also to be one who possessed great knowledge, and to be a greater follower of righteousness, and to possess a greater knowledge, and to be a father of many nations, a prince of peace, and desiring to receive instructions, and to keep the commandments of God, I became a rightful heir, a High Priest, holding the right belonging to the fathers.

3 It was conferred upon me from the fathers; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the firstborn, or the first man, who is Adam, or first father, through the fathers unto me.

4 I sought for mine appointment unto the Priesthood according to the appointment of God unto the fathers concerning the seed.

5 My fathers, having turned from their righteousness, and from the holy commandments which the Lord their God had given unto them, unto the worshiping of the gods of the heathen, utterly refused to hearken to my voice;

6 For their hearts were set to do evil, and were wholly turned to the god of Elkenah, and the god of Libnah, and the god of Mahmackrah, and the god of Korash, and the god of Pharaoh, king of Egypt;

...

There's a part of the first chapter and here we know something about worshiping of idols and his father turns his belief in worshiping idols. Abraham who feared the Lord, decide to leave the place even to the house of his Father. He did this to worship God and the Priesthood was passed by him because of Righteousness.

Those are some of the cut verses and some brief event of his life.

The Bible did not mention specifically about idolatry of his Father, but rather God commanded him to leave the place.

Why and what's the reason behind God's instruction to leave behind his homeland his or everything around him.

[Genesis 11]

...

27 ¶ Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot.

28 And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.

29 And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram’s wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor’s wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah.

30 But Sarai was barren; she had no child.

31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son’s son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram’s wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.

32 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

The story is just right there, they just left and went to Canaan and dwelt in Haran, then his Father died. And after his father died the Lord instructed them to get out of the land on the next chapter -

[Genesis 12]

Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came.

Okay, so were there any deeper reasons that makes more sense about the instructions? God could anytime make Abraham "a great nation" (as his promised blessings) wherever he lives or wanted to live. But the instruction is clear to leave even the House of his Father. What really happens left a mystery as to why would God instruct Abraham to leave in the House of his Father. There must be some deeper reason as to why Lot and his Family leave the Sodom and Gomorrah? But just as what is written, Abraham will be blessed as "a great nation". So, this Book of Abraham seem nothing really correlated as to what the bible just said. But here's some of the writings that you might think how this Joseph Smith made up such things that perfect coincide some of other documents that he never knew existed in his time. Here let's read the 12th chapter of the Book of Jubilees and will take some parts of it -

The Book of Jubilees
From www.pseudepigrapha.com see whole chapter just click on that link.

Abram seeks to run Terah from idolatry, 1-8. Marries Sarai, 9. Haran and Nachor, 9-11. Abram burns the idols: death of Haran, 12-14 (cf. Gen. xi.28). Terah and his family go to Haran, 15. Abram observes the stars and prays, 16-21. Is bidden to go to Canaan and blessed, 22-4. Power of speaking Hebrew given to him, 25-7. Leaves Haran for Canaan, 28-31. (Cf. Gen. xi.31-xii.3.)

[Chapter 12]

And it came to pass in the sixth week, in the seventh year thereof, [1904 A.M.] that Abram said to Terah his father, saying, 'Father!'
And he said, 'Behold, here am I, my son.' And he said, What help and profit have we from those idols which thou dost worship, And before which thou dost bow thyself?
For there is no spirit in them, For they are dumb forms, and a misleading of the heart. Worship them not:
Worship the God of heaven,
Who causes the rain and the dew to descend on the earth and does everything upon the earth, And has created everything by His Word, And all life is from before His face. Why do ye worship things that have no spirit in them? For they are the work of (men's) hands, And on your shoulders do ye bear them, And ye have no help from them, But they are a great cause of shame to those who make them, And a misleading of the heart to those who worship them: Worship them not.'
And his father said unto him, I also know it, my son, but what shall I do with a people who have made me to serve before them?
And if I tell them the truth, they will slay me; for their soul cleaves to them to worship them and honour them.
Keep silent, my son, lest they slay thee.' And these words he spake to his two brothers, and they were angry with him and he kept silent.

And here's another History of Abraham written in a Script called "The Apocalypse of Abraham". And see how the story goes.

The Apocalypse of Abraham
[Chapter 1]
1. On the day I was guarding the gods of my father Terah and the gods of my brother Nahor, while I was testing (to find out) which god is in truth the strongest,
2. I (then) Abraham, at the time when my lot came, when I was completing the services, of my father Terah’s sacrifice to his gods of wood, of stone, of gold, of
3. silver, of copper, and of iron, having entered their temple for the service, I found a god named Marumath, carved from stone, fallen at the feet of the iron god
4. Nakhin. And it came to pass, that when I saw it my heart was perplexed and I thought in my mind that I, Abraham, could not put it back in its place alone,
5. because it was heavy, (being made) of a big stone. But I went and told my father,
6. and he came in with me. And when we both lifted it to put it in its place, its head
7. fell off, even while I was holding it by its head. And it came to pass, when my father saw that the head of his god Marumath had fallen, he said to me, "Abraham!:
8. And I said, "Here I am!" And he said to me, "Bring me the axes and chiselsfrom the house. "And I brought them to him
9. from the house. And he cut another Marumath from another stone, without a head, and he smashed the head that had fallen off Marumath and the rest of Marumath.

[Chapter 2]
1. He made five other gods and he gave then to me and ordered me to sell them
2. outside on the town road. I saddled my father’s ass and loaded them on it and
3. went out on the highway to sell them. And behold merchants from Phandana of Syria were coming with camels, on their way to Egypt to buy kokonil from
4. the Nile. I asked them a question and they answered me. And walking along I conversed with them. One of their camels screamed. The ass took fright and ran away and threw off the gods. Three of them were crushed and two remained
5. (intact). And it came to pass that when the Syrians saw that I had gods, they said to me. ""Why did you not tell us that you had gods? We would have bought them
6. before the ass.heard the camel’s voice and you have had no loss. Give us
7. at least the gods that remain and we will give you a suitable price." I considered it in my heart. And they paid both for the smashed gods and the gods which
8. remained. For I had been grieving in my heart how I would bring payment to my

9. father. I threw three broken (gods) into the water of the river Gur, which was in this place. And they sank into the depths of the river Gur and were no more.

[Chapter 3]
1. As I was still walking on the road, my heart was disturbed and my mind
2. distracted. I said in my heart, "What is the inequality of activity which my
3. father is doing? Is it not he rather who is god for his gods, because they come
4. into being from his sculpting, his planning, and his skill? They ought to honor my father because they are his work. What is this food of my father in his works?
5. Behold, Marumath fell and could not stand up in his sanctuary, nor could I myself
6. lift him until my father came and we raised him up. And even so we were not able (to do it) and his head fell off of him. And he put it on another stone of
7. another god, which he had made without a head. And... the other five gods which got smashed (in falling) from the ass, who could not save themselves and injure the ass because it smashed them, nor did their shards come up out of the
8. river. And I said to my heart, "If it is so, how then can my father’s god Marumath, which has the head of another stone and which is made from another stone, save a man, or heart a man’s prayer, or give him any gift?"

[Chapter 4]
1. And thinking thus, I came to my father’s house. And I watered the ass and gave him hay. And I took out the silver and placed it in the hand of my father Terah.
2. And when he saw it, he was glad, and he said, "You are blessed. Abraham, by the god of my gods, since you have brought me the price for the gods, so that my
3. labor was not (in) vain." And answering I said to him, "Listen, father Terah! The gods are blessing in you, because you are a god for them, because you made
4. them, for their blessing is their perdition and their power is vain. They did not
5. help themselves; how then can they help you or bless me? I was good for you in this transaction, for through my good sense I brought you the silver for the
6. smashed (gods)." And when he heard my speech he became furiously angry with me, because I had spoken harsh words against his gods.

[Chapter 5]
1. 1But having pondered my father’s anger, I went out. And afterward when I had
2.(3.) gone out, he called me saying, "Abraham!" And I said, "Here I am!" And he said, "Up, gather wood chips, for I was making gods from fir before you came,
4. and prepare with them food for my midday meal." And it came to pass, when I was choosing the wooden chips, I found among them a small god which would
5.(6.) fit...in my left hand. And on its forehead was written: god Barisat. And it came to pass when I put the chips on the fire in order to prepare the food for my father, and going out to inquire about the food, I put Barisat near the enkindling

7. fire, saying to him threateningly, "Barisat, watch that the fire does not go out
8. before I come back! If the fire goes out, blow on it so it flares up." I went out
9. and I made my counsel. When I returned I found Barisat fallen on his back. His
10. feet enveloped by fire and burning fiercely. And it came to pass when I saw it, I laughed (and) said to myself, "Barisat, truly you know how to light a fire and
11. cook food!" And it came to pass while saying this in my laughter, I saw (that)
12. he burned up slowly from the fire and became ashes. I carried the food to my
13. father to eat. I gave him wine and milk, and he drank and he enjoyed himself
14. and he blessed Marumath his god. And I said to him, "Father Terah, do not bless Marumath your god, do not praise him! Praise rather Barisat, your god, because, as though loving you, he threw himself into the fire in order to cook your food."
15.(16.) And he said to me, "Then where is he now?" And I said, "He has burned in the fierceness of the fire and become dust." And he said, "Great is the power of Barisat! I will make another today, and tomorrow he will prepare my food."

[Chapter 6]
1. When I, Abraham, heard words like this from my father, I laughed in my mind,
2. and I groaned in the bitterness and anger of my soul. I said, "How then is a
figment of a body made by him (Terah) an aid for my father? Or can he have subordinated (his) body to his soul, his soul to a spirit, and the spirit to stupidity
4. and ignorance?" And I said, "It is only proper to endure evil that I may throw
5. my mind to purity and I will expose my thoughts clearly to him." I answered and said, "Father Terah, whichever of these gods you extol, you err in your thought.
6. Behold, the gods of my brother Nahor standing in the holy sanctuary are more
7. venerable than yours. For behold, Zouchaios, my brother Nahor’s god is more venerable than your god Marumath because he is made of gold, valued by man.
8. And if he grows old with time, he will be remolded, whereas Marumath, if h
9. e is changed or broken, will not be renewed, because he is stone. What about Ioav, the god on the other god, who stands with Zouchaios? For he is also more venerable than the god Barisat; he is carved from wood and forged from silver. Because he too is a term of comparison, being valued by man according to external 10,11experience. But Barisat, your god, when he was still not carved, rooted in the
12. earth, being great and wondrous, with branches and flowers; and praise...But
13. you made him with an axe, and by your skill he was made a god. And behold
14. he has already dried up and his fatness has perished. He fell from the height to
15. the earth, he came from greatness to smallness, and the appearance of his face
17. wasted away. And, he himself was burned up by the fire and he became ashes
18. and is no more. And you say, Let me make another and tomorrow he will make

19. my food for me. But in perishing he left himself no strength for his (own) destruction."

[Chapter 7]
1. This I say:
2. Fire is more venerable in formation, for even the unsubdued (things) are subdued in it, and it mocks that which perishes easily by means of its
3. burning. But neither is it venerable, for it is subject to the waters.
4. But rather the waters are more venerable than it (fire), because they overcome fire and sweeten the earth
5. with fruits. But I will not call them god either, for the waters subside under the
6. earth and are subject to it. But I will not call it a goddess either, for it is dried by the sun (and) subordinated to man for his work.
7. More venerable among the gods, I say, is the sun, for with its rays it illuminates the whole universe and the various airs.
8. Nor will I place among the gods the one who obscures his course by means of the moon and the clouds.
9. Nor again shall I call the moon or the stars gods, because they too at times during the night dim their light.
10. Listen, Terah my father, I shall seek before you the God who created all the gods supposed by us (to exist).
11. For who is it, or which one is it who made the heavens crimson and the sun golden, who has given light to the moon and the stars with it, who has dried the earth in the midst of the many waters, who set you yourself among the things and who has sought me out in the perplexity of my thoughts?
12. I (only) God will reveal himself by himself to us!"

[Chapter 8]
1. And it cane to pass as I was thinking things like these with regard to my father Terah in the court of my house, the voice of the Mighty One came down from
2. the heavens in a stream of fire, saying and calling, "Abraham, Abraham!" And
3. I said, "Here I am." And he said, "You are searching of the God of gods, the
4. Creator, in the understanding of your heart. I am he. Go out from Terah, your father, and go out of the house, that you too may not be slain in the sins of your
5. father’s house." And it came to pass as I went out-I was not
6. yet outside the entrance of the court- that the sound of a great thunder came and burned him and his house and everything in his house, down to the ground, forty cubits.

[Chapter 9]
1.(2.) Then a voice came speaking to me twice: "Abraham, Abraham!" And I said, 1. Then a voice came to me speaking twice, "Abraham! Abraham!" and I said, "Here I am!" And He said, "Behold it is I, fear not for I am with you, for I AM before the ages, even the Mighty God who created the first light of the world. I am your shield and your helper."
3. "Here I am." And he said, "Behold, it is I, Fear not, for I an Before-the-World
4. and Mighty, the God who created previously, before the light of the age. I am
5. the protector for you and I am your helper.
Go, get me a three-year-old heifer, a three-year-old she-goat, a three-year-old ram, a turtledove, and a pigeon, 2. "Go, take me a young heifer of three years, and a she-goat of three years, and a ram of three years, a turtledove and a pigeon, and bring me a pure sacrifice. And in this sacrifice I will lay before you the ages to come, and make known to you what is reserved, and you shall see great things which you have not hitherto seen:

6. and make me a pure sacrifice. And in this sacrifice I will place the ages. I will announce to you guarded things and you will see great things which you have not
7. seen, because you desired to search for me, and I called you my beloved. But for forty days abstain from every kind of food cooked by fire, and from drinking 3. because you have loved to search me out, and I have named you 'my friend.' But abstain from every form of food that comes forth out of the fire, and from the drinking of wine, and from anointing yourself with oil, for forty days, and then set forth for me the sacrifice which I have commanded you, in a place which I will show you on a high mountain, and there I will show you the ages which have been created and established by my word, and I will make known to you what shall come to pass in them on those who have done evil and righteousness in the generations of men."
8. of wine and from anointing (yourself) with oil. And then you shall set out for me the sacrifice, which I have commanded you, in the place which I will show you
9. on a high mountain. And there I will show you the things which were made by
10. the ages and by my word, and affirmed, created, and renewed. And I will announce to you in them what will come upon those who have done evil and just things in the race of man."

What happens here was that, the "Book of Abraham" which was Translated by Joseph Smith through Revelation could be incorrect or maybe Joseph's just telling the truth as what he received from Heaven. Those writings makes it more detailed on Abraham's days and the worship of idols in their lands and in his father's Household. Biblical, it wasn't mentioned, but this proves something about the Book of Abraham and Joseph Smith's Revelation. It's for you to find out.

Part 3 - Neil Andi Anderson: Nature of God

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo Your literal understanding of God's nature, you even compare God Himself as human. Nope, I didn't compare God into human, you simply assume I was and you don't understand my post to both you and Job Bautista because of your Arrogance and Bigotry. If you really want to know if it is true or not, then you must understand the previous article I posted for you and be transparent, rather ignore it with your arrogance. You just erroneously thought I understand the Nature of God as a type of Human like what you did to Christ. A very poor understanding of Junjun's alepores could be you in danger, Apostle Paul already warned us as he said, "In blazing fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know the real God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus" (2Thes.1:8) You just quoted some short verse not the entire content as to help you understand what was it all about rather using it as part of you doctrine for brainwashing.

[2 Thessalonians 1]

4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming afire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

So it is very important that we should know Him some other says that God has an ass, a wrong conclusion of LDS fanatic member of Jerry Bustillo's idea. Look how Pathetic you are, the scripture is plain that God created us is His own image, male and female in the image of God. Have you seen someone lately merge or just blend in the air and float? Your understanding about God was that he can't be occupied and he is a Giant Celestial Being that if he shows himself it will doom every elements in the Space. Really?

[Genesis 1]

26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a basic scripture verse and yet this group of people refuse to understand it, simply because they have different understanding of the Nature of God.

Part 3 - Christmas time by Neil Andi Anderson

Some of Neil Andi Anderson's Comments that doesn't make any sense. Thinking the adopted tradition was a doctrine. Such a waste -

Someone posted this in a Group "Christian VS Mormonism Discussion"

To Neil Andi Anderson, don't be a hypocrite every INC got a lot of benefits during those seasons of Love and Giving. The LDS adopted this tradition because of the spirit of Christ and in remembrance of his Atonement for us not just his born. If you want to stop this tradition do it on your own will, then you also stop accepting Christmas bonuses as part of your benefits. Lots of INC are still keeping it.

Part 3 - Christmas time by Neil Andi Anderson

Some of Neil Andi Anderson's Comments that doesn't make any sense. Thinking the adopted tradition was a doctrine. Such a waste -

Someone posted this in a Group "Christian VS Mormonism Discussion"

Saraijah's Art

Part 3 - Job Bautista's State as the End of the World Misinterpretation

Here another Comments that seems has nothing to do about the writtings of John but rather some even that will come during the last days. Follow the Text in Red as my Comments.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

You want propagate your false church according to your BOM. Read. I don't know if he is asking or I just want to show off something he thinks he is right and as always failed to understand the Book of Mormon or Scriptures.

1 Nephi 14: 2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.

And Here goes the Scripture verse which he think something is connected to some prophecy in the Bible and that the book of Mormon just simply made a false proclamation.

False statement from BOM. I don't see any false statement but rather you are simply twisting it not minding the context.

The Apostle John will write concerning the end of the world. About 600–592 B.C.

Okay, so what was this all about? You're just confused of your own theory. 1 Nephi 14:2 has nothing to do with End of the World, but rather the conversion of the Gentile to the Gospel at the last days, and also Daniel, and Christ already made a statement about the end of the world not just John. Seems like you're running out of idea. (See Daniel 12 and Matthew 24 and Matthew 25 for the Parables) You're just copy and pasting something you don't understand and making a claim that the Chapter heading about John if false. I don't see any false about it that John will write something about the end of the world, you just over-reacting to something you don't understand.

Have you seen your problem here, you just misunderstood the writings and claim it to something else. You fail to understand the Scriptures and will continue to fail over and over.

Part 3 - Job Bautista's State as the End of the World Misinterpretation

Here another Comments that seems has nothing to do about the writtings of John but rather some even that will come during the last days. Follow the Text in Red as my Comments.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

And Here goes the Scripture verse which he think something is connected to some prophecy in the Bible and that the book of Mormon just simply made a false proclamation.

False statement from BOM. I don't see any false statement but rather you are simply twisting it not minding the context.

Have you seen your problem here, you just misunderstood the writings and claim it to something else. You fail to understand the Scriptures and will continue to fail over and over.

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Job Bautista: Misunderstandings Christ Divinity and Deity

I would like to post his hypocrite comments under his criticism and see how Job Bautista is not just a Bigot but also a hypocrite. I will post two of his comments.

Let's go ahead and see his first post -

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

According this cult defender his bigotry reasoning ( palusot lang ) just to evade the main issue of his topic he'd raised according to him that Jesus and God is equal in deity & divinity ? According to me? Really? When did I say that it's just a reason to evade the main issue? So much of you lying and deceiving, and it seems like your lying got extremely on a different level. I think you need to talk to your superior or minister to get over to that kind of attitude. You need to change the way you conversed with someone and you need a life and change or for good. Seriously? When did I say that?

I don' t want to attack you personally but let us focus on the issue . Okay, good let's take some note about it and see if you can keep it.

Is Jesus equal to God ? This is a good topic and let's use actual Greek Koine text to prove that. Let's get to that topic after my comments to your pretty words. 😆 LOL!

NKJV Bible. John 13:16

[16]Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.

This scripture he tries to reference says something about the difference between Servants and Master. There are no questions about it and it has nothing to do with Christ's Divinity or Deity the context was all about Christ's example of service even though he was addressed as Master. Let's try reading the context to know about it -

John 13
12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet.
15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

Mr. Little bit Harder , who is the servant mention in this verse? I think your question means who was the Master in this verse? The servant Jesus Christ taught was his disciples and he was called Master according to the context. But I think you need to rephrase that using the word who sent him in verse 16. I would answer it directly as his Father and the Father is always be the God of All Spirit, his the Father of all the Children in this World and that include Christ and us. But to think this disqualifies Christ Deity was so insane or ridiculed. Christ was sent and he already exists alongside the Father and was with the father during the Creation. This has been discussed the last time, but This Job Bautista makes so much of his excuse and bigotry.

Perhaps our readers identify who is the loser this time ? Yeah, of course, they do. And you don't understand the context of that scripture. So, who do you think was the Loser? Loser!

And let's go-ahead to his second Post and see his claim of so much bigotry.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

According to this cult defender that Jesus is co-equal of God of His divinity & deity? Yeah, cult defender, I'll make a note with that attacking personally. This seems too much hypocrisy. Anyway, let's dive ahead to see much of his failure.

Let us study Mr Little bit Harder. You can do better than that Job Bautista. And it seems this hypocrisy is so familiar with INCult Doctrine and teachings. Nothing new. So, yeah try a little bit harder and make it double.

Is Jesus is equal the divinity and deity of God ? As I have said this is a good topic. But let's go ahead and see how you understand it. Let's try and see how do you use the scripture and twist it.

NKJV Bible. 1 Corinthians 11:3

[3]But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Using this scripture seems very poor to defame Christ's Divinity. You are too slow to understand the Scriptures and yet you manage to twist it. 1 Corinthians 11 was all about the confusions of the church of God in Corinth and Paul made some examples of unity and of honoring the head, or should we say the author of the church comparing it with Man and Woman. He seems unfamiliar with it not knowing what happens ahead of that verse. Let's go and take a look -

11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

Yes, we all know that the man is the head of the household. But that doesn't mean that a woman doesn't have any used or should not make decisions in the household under the direction of the husband. They are both parts of the household and there could be no perfection without the other who complete the harmony of the household. So, what does this verse says?... for the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman... And it seems that the man and the woman were to treat equally to the Lord. And he thinks nothing more about it but rather a hierarchical structure of the Church, which means they are certain level and if you're below, there's not a chance to aim higher. As Christ was the head and God was above Christ. Yes, in a sense that he is the Father of Christ, so of course he needs to be humble under the direction of the Father. This guy doesn't care about it because of his bigoted teachings. But rather there is a hierarchy in Deities. And it seems like Christ is below angels on their teachings, which means there's not a chance for Christ to sit on God's throne.

Now, cult defender who is the head of Jesus ? Are they equal in divinity and deity? And let's talk about it as a promise that it is a good topic to discuss. Okay so let's get to it - (see topic after Job Bautista's third post)

For an update, he made additional hypocrisy of his so-called I don't want attack personally and yet too much ad Hominem and Fallacy. So this is his third strike and let's go ahead will take a look -

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo. Third address and let's try to see the message

Ayon sa kulto defender na ito na magkapantay lang daw ang pagka Diyos ni Panginoong Jesus at ng Ama? Cult Defender, you say? Have you looked at yourself in the mirror? You can't prove anything about your so-called cult defender, I do defend the truth and nothing else, not a Bigot like you who tries to insist on the INCultic doctrine, That has nothing to do about Christ Church. Try again Job Bautista. Make it harder this time. 🤣🤣🤣

Mr. Little bit Harbet pwde ba buksan mo rin ang iyong isipan at mukhan kapit na kapit sayo si Sator na dumaya sayo! Rev. 12:9 and there goes the Red Herring Fallacy. You try to insert your Satur teachings that have nothing to do with the topic and you can't even define it. You may try again using that scripture to prove your claim. But if you can't, then there's no reason for you to insist on your Red Herring Fallacy.

A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion. A red herring may be used intentionally, as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g., in politics), or may be used in argumentation inadvertently. - Wikipedia

Magkapantay nga ba si Panginoong Jesus at ang Ama? Sure let's answer that see the end of this commentary below to know the answers.

NKJV Bible. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28

[27]For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him, ” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.

[28]Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. Effects of Denying the Resurrection

There's another verse he thinks will disqualify Christ's Divinity. I have proven to you already in our previous discussion that you don't even attempt to answer. The verses you use are simply God's manifestation as the father of all living in which Christ is also the Son, which of course under the direction of the Father, or should we say the Father's right hand. Your understanding of the Scripture was too obvious that you don't know fully about Christ. See our previous discussions about this below -

https://truth-reflects.blogspot.com/2021/09/job-bautista-poor-responses-and-weak.html?m=1

Pagkatapos mo nabasa ang talata Mr. Little bit Harber Jerry Bustillo. Okay, so what are you trying to say here? I had read everything and your selection of Scripture that you think is helpful for you to cover up your INCult doctrine.

MAGKAPANTAY BA SI PJC AT ANG Ama ? Oh yeah sure, let's answer your plea Job Bautista, and to think you got the right choice in selecting some verses to misinterpret the scripture. Then you're wrong, and you'll never learn the truth. You need to ask someone to help you grow mature in your life. All but lamebrain. Sorry, was that an attack on you? And that's what you are, dolt.

Here let me give you my answer and understand it without hypocrisy and bigotry.

Divinity of Christ

Does the scripture say something about the divinity of Christ?

Christ was the Eternal I Am.

John 8

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

What would be the very reason why the people attempt to Stone the Christ? The answer is clear and simple, Christ claimed he was the Eternal I am, which is crossed referenced to Exodus 3:14 -

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Furthermore, here's an additional reference for you -

Christ equal with God?

Job Bautista never included this even how the Jews sought to kill Christ and How did he introduce himself to them as the Son of God who is also a God. So, these verses will lead us to know how Christ helps the Jew understand his divine calling and Deity. Let's go ahead and read it -

John 5
17 ¶ But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

This verse clearly shows that the Jews understand Christ's proclamation, that he was with the father before he was sent to earth and became human. He maketh himself Equal with God the Father. The Jews dispute him of his words and attempt to stone him for blasphemy. He (Christ) never said any correction of their wrong understanding, but rather explain it much deeper until the Jews got mad at his words. On the other hand, Christ also, saw what the Father did and do it even the same. Sounds unfamiliar, but that's what the Bible said. The Father loved him so he committed all the judgment and honor to his Son. Not new, but it is Christ's divine calling that proves his deity.

The second verse is much relevant and it is even a testimony of Christ's deity. Let's follow Paul's words about it.

Philippians 2

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

These simple words from Paul remind us of how Christ is obedient to the Father and came into this world in a form of a servant. But did Paul misuse the word about Christ Deity, in which he said clearly “it not robbery to be equal with God“. What was the Greek usage of that? Let's try Nestle Arland -

NA28 - Philippians 2:6 ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ,

The text (μορφῇ θεοῦ) "morphē Theou" or Form of God obviously was used as to denotes Christ Divinity and was followed Shortly with (εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ) "einai isa Theō" which means to be equal with God. See the table image for your reference Job Bautista.

The word robbery was not included in the Greek text, see some of the commentaries to learn from it below in the next Paragraph -

Let's try to see a commentary from Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

6. Who] in His pre-existent glory. We have in this passage an N.T. counterpart to the O.T. revelation of Messiah’s “coming to do the will of His God” (Psalm 40:6-8, interpreted Hebrews 10:5).

being] The Greek word slightly indicates that He not only “was,” but “already was,” in a state antecedent to and independent of the action to be described. R.V. margin has “Gr. originally being”; but the American Revisers dissent.

in the form of God] The word rendered “form” is morphê. This word, unlike our “form” in its popular meaning, connotes reality along with appearance, or in other words denotes an appearance which is manifestation. It thus differs from the word (schêma) rendered “fashion” in Php 2:8 below; where see note. See notes on Romans 12:2 in this Series for further remarks on the difference between the two words; and cp. for full discussions, Abp Trench’s Synonyms, under μορφή, and Bp Lightfoot’s Philippians, detached note to ch. 2.

Here then our Redeeming Lord is revealed as so subsisting “in the form of God” that He was what He seemed, and seemed what He was—God. (See further, the next note below, and on Php 2:7.) “Though [morphê] is not the same as [ousia, essence], yet the possession of the [morphê] involves participation in the [ousia] also, for [morphê] implies not the external accidents [only?] but the essential attributes” (Lightfoot).

thought] The glorious Person is viewed as (speaking in the forms of human conception) engaged in an act of reflection and resolve.

robbery] The Greek word occurs only here in the Greek Scriptures, and only once (in Plutarch, cent. 2) in secular Greek writers. Its form suggests the meaning of a process or act of grasp or seizure. But similar forms in actual usage are found to take readily the meaning of the result, or material, of an act or process. “An invader’s or plunderer’s prize” would thus fairly represent the word here. This interpretation is adopted and justified by Bp Lightfoot here. R.V. reads “a prize,” and in the margin “Gr. a thing to be grasped.” Liddell and Scott render, “a matter of robbery,” which is substantially the same; Bp Ellicott, “a thing to be seized on, or grasped at.”—The context is the best interpreter of the practical bearing of the word. In that context it appears that the Lord’s view of His Equality (see below) was not such as to withstand His gracious and mysterious Humiliation for our sakes, while yet the conditions of His Equality were such as to enhance the wonder and merit of that Humiliation to the utmost. Accordingly the phrase before us, to suit the context, (a) must not imply that He deemed Equality an unlawful possession, a thing which it would be robbery to claim, as some expositors, ancient and modern, have in error explained the words (see Alford’s note here, and St Chrysostom on this passage at large); (b) must imply that His thought about the Equality was one of supremely exemplary kindness towards us. These conditions are satisfied by the paraphrase—“He dealt with His true and rightful Equality not as a thing held anxiously, and only for Himself, as the gains of force or fraud are held, but as a thing in regard of which a most gracious sacrifice and surrender was possible, for us and our salvation.”

The A.V., along with many interpreters, appears to understand the Greek word as nearly equal to “usurpation”; as if to say, “He knew it was His just and rightful possession to be equal with God, and yet” &c. But the context and the Greek phraseology are unfavourable to this.

to be equal with God] R.V., to be on an equality with God, a phrase which perhaps better conveys what the original words suggest, that the reference is to equality of attributes rather than person (Lightfoot). The glorious Personage in view is not another and independent God, of rival power and glory, but the Christ of God, as truly and fully Divine as the Father.

Let us remember that these words occur not in a polytheistic reverie, but in the Holy Scriptures, which everywhere are jealous for the prerogative of the Lord God, and that they come from the pen of a man whose Pharisaic monotheism sympathized with this jealousy to the utmost. May it not then be asked, how—in any, way other than direct assertion, as in John 1:1–the true and proper Deity of Christ could be more plainly stated?

The word “God” on the other hand is here used manifestly with a certain distinctiveness of the Father. Christian orthodoxy, collecting the whole Scripture evidence, sees in this a testimony not to the view (e.g. of Arius, cent. 4) that the Son is God only in a secondary and inferior sense, but that the Father is the eternal, true, and necessary Fountain of the eternal, true, and necessary Godhead of the Son.—For this use of the word God, see e.g. John 1:1; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Hebrews 1:9; Revelation 20:6; Revelation 22:1.

For more of this commentary just go directly to https://biblehub.com click on that link to learn more for yourself. It goes directly to the topic, click on it and you'll see a separate window of the link.

Another reference of Christ Divinity -
For sure you won't answer this blog post as it shows on the previous blog. But maybe it will help you something for additional insights. I will not use too much time in research for your homework, but I will just give some simple advice to read the scripture transparently not a bigot of a one-sided cult.

John 10
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Christ Deity as “with the father God“ caught all the Attention to Jewish belief of just one God the Father, but Christ proclaimed he is United with The Father, for he and the Father are(plural) One. This makes the issue even more complicated to Jewish traditions or teachings. They had concluded that Jesus Christ must be punished for blasphemy a sin worthy of death. Yet Christ manage to expound the scripture and quote it somewhere in Psalm 82 to prove his thoughts and teachings are inclined in the Laws and the Prophets. The word “I“ in the “I said, Ye are gods" has a divine equivalent which also shows his existence before the laws. "I" was not used in the scripture he quoted in Psalm 82, but he proclaims his divinity and existence.

Another scripture I would like to add for our friend Job Bautista is the words from the prophet Isaiah. See the verses and let's expound it a little to our friend Job Bautista.

Isaiah 7:14

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 8:8

And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel.

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

How much of our friend Job Bautista does know about it? Okay, but since I make some long words about this topic I would like to keep this Isaiah's Prophecies as a different topic for It would cost a lot of paper works to complete the discussion. Just leave it there Job Bautista for a Moment and Please Answer those posts above if you think you're good enough to debunk the Scripture with your INCultic Teachings.