Responding Neil Andi Anderson on Messenger's Receipt

Hahhahaha ayon di na gets ang topic. Sabi ko ang pagkakasugo ng mukhaan na hindi dinadaan ng prophetic statement yan ang point, baby brain talaga itong si Jerry boy. Dunongdunongan ka kasi baka pagkatapos nito mute na naman ako yan lang naman ang magawa niyo para makaganti.

It’s common to get a dismissive or defensive response from some Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) members when discussing certain topics. While they claim to be Christians, some INC members I’ve encountered don’t always exhibit Biblical attributes or Christlike behavior in their reactions. But let’s put that aside and focus on what we can gain from this discussion.

In Christianity, divine visitations and revelations play a crucial role. For instance, figures like Jesus, John the Baptist, and Paul received direct guidance from God. This divine interaction is essential for fulfilling sacred missions. It highlights the importance of ongoing divine support for prophets and apostles.

While some INC members might resist the idea of divine visitations, it’s vital to recognize the significance of these interactions in the Christian faith. They demonstrate God’s continual guidance and intervention. Let’s see what insights we can gather, keeping an open mind and heart as we explore these profound spiritual experiences.

Ang pagkakasugo kina Noah at Moises ay mukhaan o deritsahan. Samantalang ang kay Cristo, Juan at Pablo na siyang tinutukoy ko ay sa pamamagitan ng propesiya. Halimbawa kay Cristo di pa siya isinilang marami nang naiisulat tungkol sa kanya. Ganito ang isang testamento na tumutukoy sa kanya Deuteronomio 18:15-19 Ang Salita ng Dios (ASND)

The doctrine of Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) generally holds that God cannot be seen, which contrasts with certain beliefs about divine visitations. However, throughout biblical history, we observe instances of divine guidance, revelation, and even visitation to aid prophets and apostles in their ministries.

For example, in the New Testament, Christ Himself experienced divine interaction. During His ministry, He was visited by an angel in Gethsemane (Luke 22:43), and heard the voice of the Father affirming Him during His baptism (Matthew 3:17) and Transfiguration (Matthew 17:5). Additionally, in John 11:41-42, Jesus acknowledges His Father’s response to His prayer before raising Lazarus.

Scripture also highlights John the Baptist's unique calling. Though there is limited information about his ministry, his father Zacharias saw an angel who foretold John’s birth and mission (Luke 1:13-17). John’s upbringing in the wilderness, as guided by his father, likely prepared him for his prophetic role (Luke 1:80).

The Apostle Paul’s conversion on the road to Damascus is a profound testament to direct divine revelation. In Acts 9:3-6, Paul encounters the risen Christ, which profoundly alters the course of his life, leading him to become a dedicated servant of God.

Scholars often discuss these scriptural accounts to illustrate that divine guidance through revelation or visitation has historically played a vital role in fulfilling God's purposes. These instances highlight God's willingness to use various means to guide His chosen servants.

Therefore, while INC doctrine might differ on the visibility of God, the broader Christian scriptural narrative underscores the necessity of ongoing divine guidance, revelation, and occasional visitation to assist His prophets and apostles in their sacred missions.

... magpapadala sa inyo ang PANGINOON na inyong Dios ng isang propeta na mula sa inyo at kadugo ninyo tulad ko. Natupad ito at binasa sa mga apostoles dito sa Gawa Tunay na sinabi ni Moises, Ang Panginoong Dios ay magtitindig sa inyo ng isang propetang gaya ko mula sa gitna ng inyong mga kapatid. Ayon litaw ang pagkakasugo ni Cristo ayon sa propesiya. Kay Juan Bautista ay ating mababasa sa aklat ni Isaiah 40:3″ "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.” Ang katuparan ay mababasa sa bagong tipan ganito ang ating mababasa, “The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.” (Luke3:4) Kay Pablo naman ay magkakapareho din na ito ay hinuhulaan ni Propeta Isaiah 4:9, Ganito ang mababasa, 'Inilagay kitang isang ilaw sa mga Hentil, upang ikaw ay maghayag ng kaligtasan hanggang sa dulo ng daigdig.' ” Itoy natupad din sa kanya. Ganito ang iniutos sa amin ng Panginoon, 'Inilagay kitang isang ilaw sa mga Hentil, upang ikaw ay maghayag ng kaligtasan hanggang sa dulo ng daigdig. (Gawa 13:47)

The scriptures indicate that God consistently communicates with His people through prophets and messengers—a pattern seen throughout the Bible. These examples demonstrate that divine communication is not an outdated concept. Most scriptures illustrate that God calls and speaks to individuals, reaffirming His continual guidance. However, many Christian denominations, including Iglesia Ni Cristo, do not believe that such direct communication happens today. They see the Biblical accounts as historical rather than ongoing practices.

In contrast, scriptures like Amos 3:7 state, "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets." This suggests that prophetic revelation is still relevant and active. The question then arises: who continues to receive these divine messages today?

Many Latter-day Saints believe that God still speaks through living prophets, maintaining the same pattern of communication that has always existed. This belief distinguishes them from other Christian groups that do not expect ongoing revelation. Understanding these scriptures in their fullness supports the idea that God’s communication with humanity remains vibrant and essential.

Tandaan mo parekoy at ilagay mo ito sa utak mo na ang kanilang pagkakasugo ay mula sa mga propesiya. Tulad din kay FYM di po sa vision vision o kurokuro kundi may resibo sa pamamagitan ng banal na kasulatan.

This falls into the logical fallacy of proof by assertion. You presented a basic statement and pattern about divine communication, which I didn't dispute. Yet, you're repeating the argument about how Felix Manalo received his divine call, contradicting the rest biblical source you provided while it is very much needed. It doesn't make sense. If you believe Felix Manalo was a messenger of God, then you should also believe in how God reveals His words through His messengers. The title "messenger" itself implies this. However, you seem to avoid acknowledging this fact without any basis.

It's important to reflect on why certain beliefs are held, especially when they may contradict the principles laid out in scripture. It should encourage deeper consideration and examination of one's faith and its foundations.

Siya ang sugo mula sa sikatan ng araw (Rev. 7:2) Ang taong itinulad na ibong mandaragit na itoy nagmula sa malayong silangan. (Is. 46:11)

To understand Revelation 7:2, it's helpful to look at the broader context of the chapter. Revelation 7 talks about the sealing of the 144,000 and the great multitude in heaven. Let's break it down a bit:

Revelation 7:1-3

1. And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 
2. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3. Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

Four Angels and Four Corners: Revelation often uses symbolic imagery. The four angels standing on the four corners of the earth represent the universality of their authority, covering the entire world. They're holding back the "four winds" (representing destructive forces) from blowing and causing destruction.

The Angel from the East: Another angel is seen ascending from the east with the seal of the living God. This seal is a sign of protection and ownership by God.

The Command: This angel cries out to the other four angels, instructing them not to harm the earth, sea, or trees until God's servants are sealed on their foreheads. This sealing is a divine mark of protection and consecration.

In the Latter-day Saint tradition, this passage can be seen as signifying God's divine protection for His faithful servants during times of tribulation. The sealing could be interpreted as receiving God's approval and being set apart for divine purposes.

The angel from the east possessing the seal might signify the arrival of divine authority or revelation coming from an unexpected direction or source, emphasizing the universality and inclusiveness of God's plan.

And for Isaiah 46:11 let's try to look at the context of it.

Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Isaiah 46 is a chapter where the Lord contrasts His eternal power and reliability with the helplessness of idols. The chapter begins by discussing how the idols of Babylon will fall and how they cannot save anyone, unlike the Lord who sustains and saves His people.

Verses leading up to Isaiah 46:11:

• Verses 1-2: Talks about the idols of Babylon being carried away on beasts of burden, indicating their impotence.
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• Verses 3-4: The Lord reassures Israel that He has carried them from birth and will sustain them even into old age.
• Verses 5-7: The Lord mocks the idols made by humans, emphasizing how they cannot move or save.
• Verses 8-10: The Lord calls Israel to remember the former things and declares His ability to predict the future and bring His plans to pass.

Isaiah 46:11:

"Calling a ravenous bird from the east": This phrase is commonly interpreted to refer to Cyrus the Great, the Persian king who conquered Babylon and allowed the Israelites to return to their homeland. The "ravenous bird" symbolizes a swift and powerful agent of God’s will.

"The man that executeth my counsel from a far country": This reinforces the idea that God can use foreign rulers to accomplish His purposes, highlighting His sovereign control over all nations.

"Yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass": God is emphasizing that what He has decreed will indeed come to pass, affirming His power to accomplish His purposes.

"I have purposed it, I will also do it": This serves as a strong declaration of God’s ability to fulfill His plans.

In Latter-day Saint teachings, this verse is an affirmation of the Lord’s omnipotence and foreknowledge. God’s plans span across history and are executed through various means and people, including those who might not be part of the covenant community.

It could also be seen as a reminder that God’s purposes can be fulfilled in unexpected ways, and that He is capable of using "foreign" or unexpected agents to accomplish His divine will.

This has nothing to do with your program in which you call Philippines was the place of the angel that has been mentioned. The scripture didn't says anything about it but rather it your personal interpret which was carried over by your ministers to ministers on how Felix Manalo tries brought it up to your understanding. The question still remains -

1. How does he received his Call?
2. When did God manifest and told him or enlightened him to be his servant?
3. And of course we will add some Biblical lines "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. (2 Corinthians 13:1)". Whose the witnesses of his divine call?

None of those you call Biblical Eisegesis or interpretation suggestion that your Messenger was called of God but rather a borrowed lines to satisfy your doctrine, but the sad reality was it isn't satisfying at all.

Iyan ang tunay na sugo ng Diyos maraming resibo na ipapahayag na siya ang katuparan o kaganapan sa pangako ng Diyos.

Those verses didn't qualify your SUGO, we suggest doing something different to meet the criteria on how God calls him as his servant. For me, it is just a total waste of time studying you doctrine that doesn't make any sense and telling everyone that you people were the only one who's saved just because you belong in Iglesia Ni Cristo the name you simply borrow.

Iyong vision vision niyo daya daya iyan puro salungatan ang sinasabi ng huwad na propeta. Poor Jerry boy talo dunong dunongan ka kasi sabi ko sa iyo genius #2 ka lang.

When discussing divine communication, particularly in terms of visions, calling prophets, or angelic visitations, it is more accurate to rely on scriptural examples rather than self-proclaimed messengers who lack divine calling. The Bible provides numerous instances that illustrate how God communicates with His prophets and servants which I already pointed out in the beginning of this article.

In contrast, self-proclaimed messengers who lack a divine commission often lead to confusion and misinformation. Thus, it is more beneficial to focus on scriptural truths that confirm divine interactions rather than engaging in fruitless debates with those whose intentions may seem hostile or arrogant like Neil Andi Anderson.

In conclusion, Neil Andi Anderson fails to understand how the scripture taught him of God's purpose and how he call servants, grounding our understanding of divine communication in scripture provides clarity and authenticity in which Neil Andi Anderson never understood. It reassures us of the consistent and direct nature of God’s interactions with His chosen messengers, aligning our faith with well-documented and divinely authorized examples. Thank you and have a nice day.

- Jerry Nuñez Bustillo