Job Bautista in his Poor Responses and Weak Understanding: Hebrew 1:8

And here's his poor and funny response to my article that he thinks he debunks. Sorry Job Bautista you fail and will never learn. I'll prove you wrong and see how weak your understanding about the scriptures - 

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo 

Ang isa pa sa hindi nauunawan ni Mr. Little bit harder . Na sinabi niya na si PJC daw ay Diyos ng lahat ng Espiritu? Nope, I never said that. See how you ignore the text? You are too stupid to say that I claim that. Here's the text for you to understand - 

So, what was it all about? It was addressed to the father and yet you Job Bautista tries to debunk it twisting its meaning. Nice try, but not good enough.

Dito na naman siya sumablay dahil ang Diyos ay nasa kalagayang Espiritu ayon sa Juan 4:24 at nilinaw ni PJC na siya ay may laman at buto na nagpapatunay na siya ay wala sa kalagang Espiritu ayon sa Lukas 24:39

Sad to say, you fail again to understand the scripture. John 4:24 says this - 

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Did you understand it Job Bautista? Those who worship God must worship him in Spirit. So, tell me. Did you leave your body hanging in your closet to worship God in Spirit during your INC Mass? How do you leave your body and let your spirit worship in your church? Can you do that magic trick? 🤣🤣🤣! See how poor your understanding Job. You never notice that it was all about worshiping God communicating Him in our Spirit and it was not about his Nature. Look how weak you are in understanding the scriptures. 

And in Luke 24:39 says about the resurrection of Christ.

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

You never notice that Christ helps you understand the true nature of God and their Glory. Christ simply show an example that everyone will be resurrected as in John 5:29 says

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

And take note, Stephen saw Christ beside the Father.

Acts 7

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

So was there any difference? Does Stephen says Christ has body and The Father is just an air? No he never and in fact Christ is standing in his right Arm which mean it was in the side of the Father who has at the same time has body. But you fail to understand it Job Bautista,  because of your bigotry of course. 

note: Sablay ka naman kaibigan. Sorry, You just simply fail on your bible study. You better have a minister with you every time you make a comment. You just can't understand the scripture and will never understand what's written. 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na ang Juan 20:17 ay pinalilitaw ko na Tao si Panginoong Jesus dahil siya ay aakyat sa kanyang Diyos . Hindi ko raw kinikilala ang divinity ni PJC ? May sinabi ba sa Juan 20:17 na aakyat siyang Diyos ? Very clever but fail. No, it says nothing about him ascended as a God and also it never says anything that he'll ascend as a mere human so what give? You just can't simply admit that Christ is the Son of God the firstborn of Creature and the First fruit of Resurrection. Your understanding about Christ was that he's a different being and not the same being as a God. You fail to understand how God call him as his Son if he is not the same being as He is. Your weak exegesis leads you to misunderstand the scriptures. That's what you are Job Bautista, you'll never learn.

Sablay na namab ang defense ng pulpol na tagapagtanggol ni Josrph Smith. And the only thing you can do is simply Ad Hominem. Poor guy, Can you do better than that?

Ang tanong natin sayo Mr.Little bit Harder noong nasa langit ba si PJC may sinabi ba siyang Diyos siya na nakaupo sa kanan ng Diyos ? The father declare that he is God and how do you try to bend that?

Here's some of the different version about God proclamation to his Son found in Hebrew 1:8 - 

KJ21 - But unto the Son He saith, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Thy Kingdom.

ASV - but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AMP - But about the Son [the Father says to Him], “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of [absolute] righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

AMPC - But as to the Son, He says to Him, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever (to the ages of the ages), and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of absolute righteousness (of justice and straightforwardness).

BRG - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

CSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

CEB - But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice.

CJB - but to the Son, he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; you rule your Kingdom with a scepter of equity;

CEV - But God says about his Son, “You are God, and you will rule as King forever! Your royal power brings about justice.

Darby - but as to the Son, Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age, and a sceptre of uprightness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

DLNT - But with regard to the Son He says: “Your throne, God, is forever and ever. And the scepter of straightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

DRA - But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

ERV - But this is what he said about his Son: “God, your kingdom will last forever and ever. You use your authority for justice.

EHV - But about the Son he says: God, your throne is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

ESVUK - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom.

EXB - But God said this about his Son: “·God, your throne [L Your throne, O God; ] will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with ·fairness [L a just/righteous scepter; C a scepter symbolizes royal authority].

GNV - But unto the Son he saith, O God, thy throne is forever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

GW - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

GNT - About the Son, however, God said: “Your kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever! You rule over your people with justice.

HCSB - but to the Son: Your throne, God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.

ICB - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

ISV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.

PHILLIPS - For to which of the angels did he ever say such words as these: ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you?’ Or, again ‘I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?’ Further, when he brings his first-born into this world of men, he says: ‘Let all the angels of God worship him’ This is what he says of the angels: ‘Who makes his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire’ But when he speaks of the Son, he says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your companions’. He also says: ‘You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will not fail’. But does he ever say this of any of the angels: ‘Sit at my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool?’ Surely the angels are no more than spirits in the service of God, commissioned to serve the heirs of God’s salvation.

JUB - But unto the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a rod of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

AKJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

LEB - but concerning the Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of righteous is the scepter of your kingdom.

TLB - but of his Son he says, “Your Kingdom, O God, will last forever and ever; its commands are always just and right.

MSG - But he says to the Son, You’re God, and on the throne for good; your rule makes everything right. You love it when things are right; you hate it when things are wrong. That is why God, your God, poured fragrant oil on your head, Marking you out as king, far above your dear companions.

MEV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, lasts forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

MOUNCE - But regarding the Son he says, · “Your throne, O God, is for all time, · and the scepter of absolute justice is the scepter of your kingdom.

NOG - But God said about his Son, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice.

NABRE - but of the Son: “Your throne, O God, stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NASB - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom.

NASB1995 - But of the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom.

NCB - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NCV - But God said this about his Son: “God, your throne will last forever and ever. You will rule your kingdom with fairness.

Net - but of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NIRV - But here is what he says about the Son. “You are God. Your throne will last for ever and ever. Your kingdom will be ruled by justice.

NIV - But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

NIVUK - But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a sceptre of justice will be the sceptre of your kingdom.

NKJV - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

NLV - But about His Son, He says, “O God, Your throne will last forever. Whatever You say in Your nation is right and good.

NLT - But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

NMB - But to the Son he says: O God, your seat shall be for ever and ever. The sceptre of your kingdom is a right sceptre.

NRSV - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NRSVA - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVACE - But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever, and the righteous sceptre is the sceptre of your kingdom.

NRSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom.

NTE - In relation to the son, however, it says, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever; the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of your kingdom;

OJB - And Hashem says to HaBen, KIS’AHCHA ELOHIM OLAM VAED SHEVET MISHOR SHEVET MALKHUTECHA ("Your throne, O G-d, will endure for ever and ever, and the scepter of justice is the scepter of your kingdom"‖TEHILLIM 45:7).

TPT - But about his Son, he called him “God,” saying, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever and you will rule your kingdom with justice and righteousness,

RGT - But to the Son, He says, “O God, Your throne is forever and ever. The scepter of Your Kingdom is a scepter of righteousness.

RSV - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

RSVCE - But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.

TLV - But regarding the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and a scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.

Voice - But to the Son He said, God, Your throne is eternal; You will rule Your kingdom with the scepter of justice.

Web - But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your Kingdom.

WE - But here is what God says about his Son: `O God, you will sit and rule for ever. You will rule in the right way.

WYC - But to the Son he saith, God, thy throne is into the world of world [into the world of worlds]; a rod of equity is the rod of thy realm;

YLT - and unto the Son: `Thy throne, O God, [is] to the age of the age; a scepter of righteousness [is] the scepter of thy reign;

And here I'll add George Lamsa's translation to be fair - 

LAMSA - But of the Son he said, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right scepter.

And since you love James Moffat's version, let's also add that with complicated verses in Hebrew 1:1-2, 8-9 - 

1. Many were the forms and fashions in which God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets,

2. but in these days at the end he has spoken to us by a Son — a Son whom he appointed heir of the universe, as it was by him that he created the world.

8. he says of the Son, 'God is thy throne for ever and ever, thy royal sceptre is the sceptre of equity:

9. thou hast loved justice and hated lawlessness, therefore God, thy God, has consecrated thee with the oil of rejoicing beyond thy comrades' —

Okay so back to my question.

1. How are you gonna bend it?
2. It was God who proclaimed his Son as a God, are you still against it? 

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Seriously? I don't think so? Sorry, you're too slow to understand it. Try Again. 

Inamin mo rin sa blog mo na talagang superior ang Ama kisa sa PJC dyan palang talo na naman ang stand mo dahil pumabor ang statement ko na ang Diyos ang superior at si PJC ay susuko sa kanyang Diyos ayon sa 1 Cor. 15:27-28 you're getting more and more absurd. You don't know how it was written. Christ is of course under the direction of the Father. The word itself says He is the Father and Christ is the Son which means The father is always superior than him. 

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Sablay ka naman Kulto Jerry. Sablay, for what? You simply assume you got the answers while in fact it was never an answer rather a poor exegesis of your bigotry. FAIL! 

Ang sunod niyang sinabi na hindi ko raw na realized na si PJC ay nabuhay na mag uli ? Obviously, you don't understand it. Maybe you know he was resurrected, but for sure you don't know the meaning of the event most especially the Atonement.

Jerry Mr. Little bit Harder hind mo ba alam na si Panginoong Jesus ay binuhay ng Ama ? It's never a question since Christ doesn't have the glory yet during his mortal ministry. The very reason why he ask the father to bring it back so he can glorify God and they will be one. Still FAIL. 

Conclusion : Sablay lahat ang iyong atake at tumama lang sa mukha ni Mr. Little bit Harder ang lahat ng kanyang binabato sa INC. So much of your empty answers and bigotry. The only thing I could conclude was that your too weak to understand the scriptures and to slow to catch up. It all ended up Ad Hominem. Your just making yourself a dumb among the dumbest people that I know. 

Kaya kung ako sayo, tumahimik ka nalang at huwag mong pangahasan na unawain ng personal interpretation ang Bible dahil ito ay binigay lamang sa mga hinirang ng Diyos na makakaunawa na ayon sa Espiritu Santo na ipinagkaloob sa amin ayon sa Gawa 2:39, Rev. 7:2-3 and here goes an appeal to emotions. Sorry did I hurt you? Truth really hurts but it's to hurt  to accept while your ego won't let it in. 

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

This has nothing to do with the topic, but maybe he's trying to Insert their INC man-made doctrine of bigotry so he thinks he can catch some big fish in their net. Your out of the topic and it has nothing to do with INC Doctrine, using such word Afar off from a Greek word Makran. Too bad I know your teachings Job Bautista and too bad it doesn't fit everything about the INC Philippines. Sorry you Fail Again.

Job Bautista undying misinterpretation: Jesus not God Theory

And here we go again in there wrong understanding about the scriptures. Here let's try each scripture debunking his words by simply helping our friend understand it. The colored text are my comment. Follow the text below - 

Pagbubunyag sa maling aral na tinataguyod ng Lds Church ni Joseph Smith: 

Ayon sa huwad na aklat ( BOM) na ang Diyos daw nila ay si Panginoong Jesucristo? (I don't think you need to question something you already knew) Ayon sa Mosiah 7:27 "And because he said unto them that Christ was the God, the Father of all things, and said that he should take upon him the image of man, and it should be the image after which man was created in the beginning; or in other words, he said that man was created after the image of God, and that God should come down among the children of men, and take upon him flesh and blood, and go forth upon the face of the earth—". Ito po ay labag sa nakasulat sa Biblia maging man si Panginoong Jesucristo ay may  kinikilalang Diyos (I don't see how this verse contradicting something that has biblical relevance, so far the only thing I saw was there misinterpretations and assumption) ayon sa Juan 20:17, Mateo 27:46 na kanyang sinasamba ayon sa Juan 4:22. (by quoting this verses, he assumes Christ's words were merely his divine nature while he was in a mortal state. Though Christ is the Son of God, he never claim higher in authority as the Father, but rather honor the father and address as God since he was the God of All Spirit. Let's take a look each verses and see what he meant. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. The letter in Bold Text shows how he's trying to claim that Christ was indeed human because the Father is his God, and therefore Christ is not God since there should be one whom everyone must worship. But he fail to analyzed that Christ never said anything about him and his divinity, but rather directing the audience that there is a Father who is much superior to him. This first assumption made him think of Christ as a mere human in nature, never realized that he was already risen from the dead. And here's the second he quoted in Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I already replied his comment about this one, so I'll add a screenshot about it. Anyway, Christ is simply quoting Psalm 22:1 in fulfilling the writings of the Prophets and at the same time, he shows us that though God the Father, can save him anytime he wants, and yet God the Father choose to suffer his Son Jesus Christ to feel the pains and anguish, and that, the only way to fulfill the atonement is to let him suffer as human suffer the pains and death that perhaps he could comprehend every human soul who suffers the same thing. But here our INC friend is trying to twist the subject not knowing how Christ shoulders all of our afflictions. And for the last quote it says, John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. I don't think this is the subject he meant, but I guess it should be on the next verse. Let's add it here to help him out, John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Alright, so I guess he made some brain game, that speculates Christ Teaching which leads us to analyzed on his words. Let's deal with it. Okay, so here Christ is talking to a Samaritan or a people of mixed culture and religion of Gentile and Israelite. Though Samaritans are actively observing the Laws and Prophets 2 Kings 17:24-41, this people practice traditions and the Hope for the coming of Messiah. Christ made a conversation to a Samaritan woman and was impressed in their faith, if we try to go back to Matthew 10:5 Christ Commanded his Apostle to go not into the City of Samaritan. Their different belief or practices were considered Pagans. Yet Christ knew something about their faith of the Messiah. To shorten the story, Christ made himself known to them and of course introduced his doctrine and the Father whom they should worship in Spirit. Christ plainly states that God the Father is the father of Spirit that doesn't mean his not divine. If further reading on that same chapter, The Samaritan knew the savior and they knew it was him who was prophesied by the prophet of old that will come to fulfill their words as the God and Savior. Kung ating itutuloy pa ang pagbasa sa Mosiah 7:27 Na itong  Diyos raw nila na si Panginoong Jesucristo ay ang Ama ng lahat ng bagay ? Ito po ay sumasalungat sa turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo na ang Ama ang tunay na Diyos ayon sa Juan 17:1,3. Nang siya ay tumingala sa langit . No it doesn't contradict, and it only shows how poor your understanding about Christ divinity and Calling. Christ was also address as the Everlasting Father, since he was the father of Gospel and we made covenant with God through Him. But that  doesn't says he is greater than God nor it says something about worshiping him as our God, the Father of our spirit. Anyway, to answer your confusion of scriptures you brought, in John 17:1 it says -

These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

I added verse 5 to complete the meaning and Job Bautista seems hiding some of it to avoid Christ calling and divinity. The Scripture taught us about Christ Divinity and God the Father as the God of our spirit. This means that Christ was sent for to atone from our sins, but he was with God before he was born. 

At ang karugtong pa na sinasabi sa Mosiah 7:27 na ang Diyos ay nag anyong tao? And there's no question about it, the word was God and the Word was made flesh. Christ was the Word and one of the witnessing heaven. Isang maliwanag na naman na salungat na naman sa Hosea 11:9 na ang Diyos ay hindi tao at maging ang turo ni Panginoong Jesucristo siya ay Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply twisting it think Christ words as absolute. You need to break it down to understand it. Lets try to see how it was said

Hosea 11:9 (ESV) I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in wrath.

Understanding this verse is simple if you came up to analyze the nature of God and the nature of Man. Of course, God is not a man in nature and will stand above to His creation. Unlike human whose understanding are limited to things he knows now and incapable of things compare to God's limitless power.

And in John 8:40 let's analyzed that words and understand what Christ really meant -

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Does this say something about Christ as human nature or a simple conversation to let the Jews understand him? If you read further you will come to realized the reason why Christ wanted to be stoned by his own people because of blasphemy, and blasphemy mean to make himself as a God.

Kaya ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi maaaring magka ka salungat sila ni Panginoong Jesucristo sa pagtuturo kaya kung inyong mapapansin ay consistent ang turo ng Diyos ay hindi Tao ayon sa Hosea 11:9, at si Panginoong Jesucristo ay isang Tao na nagsasabi ng katotohanan na narinig niya sa Diyos ayon sa Juan 8:40. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures. It's all about nature of God and besides, Christ is in Human state or form and he doesn't have any glory during his proclamation. You simply misunderstood Christ words and adapt it to your INC Doctrine of man. That seems very ignorant. Understand the scripture and how it was said will guide you to know who Christ is and his divine calling as the Son of God and not a mere human. Maging man si Propeta Ezekiel nag turo na ang Tao ay hindi Diyos at ang Diyos ay hindi Tao. Ezekiel 28:2. You just simply fail to understand the scriptures, Ezekiel 28:2 says this 

“Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In the pride of your heart you say, “I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas.” But you are a mere mortal and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god.

Let's try to see how the Hebrew understands it -

“Son
בֶּן־ (ben-)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 1121: A son

of man,
אָדָ֡ם (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

tell
אֱמֹר֩ (’ĕ·mōr)
Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

the ruler
לִנְגִ֨יד (lin·ḡîḏ)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 5057: A commander, civil, military, religious, honorable themes

of Tyre
צֹ֜ר (ṣōr)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 6865: Tyre -- a Phoenician city

that this is what
כֹּֽה־ (kōh-)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

the Lord
אֲדֹנָ֣י (’ă·ḏō·nāy)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 136: The Lord

GOD
יְהֹוִ֗ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3069: YHWH

says:
אָמַ֣ר ׀ (’ā·mar)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

‘Your heart
לִבְּךָ֙ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

is proud,
גָּבַ֤הּ (gā·ḇah)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1361: To soar, be lofty, to be haughty

and you have said,
וַתֹּ֙אמֶר֙ (wat·tō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“I
אָ֔נִי (’ā·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am a god;
אֵ֣ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

I sit
יָשַׁ֖בְתִּי (yā·šaḇ·tî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3427: To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry

in the seat
מוֹשַׁ֧ב (mō·wō·šaḇ)
Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 4186: A seat, assembly, dwelling place, dwelling, dwellers

of gods
אֱלֹהִ֛ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

in the heart
בְּלֵ֣ב (bə·lêḇ)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of the sea.”
יַמִּ֑ים (yam·mîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 3220: A sea, the Mediterranean Sea, large river, an artifical basin

Yet you
וְאַתָּ֤ה (wə·’at·tāh)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - second person masculine singular
Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you

are a man
אָדָם֙ (’ā·ḏām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 120: Ruddy, a human being

and not
וְֽלֹא־ (wə·lō-)
Conjunctive waw | Adverb - Negative particle
Strong's 3808: Not, no

a god,
אֵ֔ל (’êl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 410: Strength -- as adjective, mighty, the Almighty

though you have regarded
וַתִּתֵּ֥ן (wat·tit·tên)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

your heart
לִבְּךָ֖ (lib·bə·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

as that
כְּלֵ֥ב (kə·lêḇ)
Preposition-k | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 3820: The heart, the feelings, the will, the intellect, centre

of a god.
אֱלֹהִֽים׃ (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

What does it says? The word אָדָם֙ means a Ruddy or Human Being, and simply this means nature of Man comparing the Nature of God. It doesn't say anything about the divinity of Christ before his human nature but rather it says it was all about him as God who is superior and above human. And this Job Bautista Never understand that is just because he wants to compare Christ in his human form to His Father as the God of all Spirit. That doesn't work and of course Christ during his ministry did leave his glory just to become human to suffer afflictions as human. This INC member could never comprehend that because they don't understand how atonement works and why Christ need to suffer even as human suffer.

Ang pinagbabatayan ng Lds cult na ang Diyos daw ay naglikha ng tao ayon sa kanyang wangis ? Hindi maaaring ihambing ang Diyos sa wangis ng tao dahil ang tao may iba’t ibang anyo may pangit at maganda  may maitim at maputi . Wrong! God Created us in his image and in that simple understand, the image of Male and Female is the same image as gods on how he created them as His Sons and Daughter. This Job Bautista has too much fallacy and poor exegesis on the scriptures. Kaya mali ang batayan ng mga kulto na Lds. Ang tinutukoy po dyan na kawangis ay ang Diyos ay Banal kaya magpakabanal ang Tao na kanyang nilikha . Fail! that doesn't say anything about Creation but rather it says something about the purpose of man. You fail many times already, can you give a good shot on interpreting the scriptures? Use your head and don't rely on INC man-made doctrine. You people with Bigot attitude will never understand the scriptures is you continue with that kind of attitude. Just remind you. Kaya nilinaw ni Apostol Pablo sa kanyang pagtuturo na ang Diyos ay walang kamatayan at hindi nakikita ayon sa 1 Timoteo 1:17.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Yea Sure, and How do you understand the same epistle of Paul to Timothy that says about Christ? Here's the Text -

1 Timothy 6
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

I does say something about Christ as Immortal, Unseen or Invisible, The King of kings and Lord of lords, Who has honour and power everlasting. Does is say something about 1 Timothy 1:17. Pretty sure it does, but you don't understands it. See how you fail miserably?

Kaya hindi rin pasado sa kabanalan itong kinikilala nilang Propeta na si Joseph smith dahil hindi ito namuhay sa kabanalan  kundi siya po ay nabuhay sa kahalayan naging sugapa sa babae at siya ang pasimuno ng doktrina na polygamy isang doktrina ng demonyo na dumaya sa kanila ayon sa Rev. 12:9. Revelation 12:9 has nothing to do with the Church and the doctrine, and has nothing to do with Joseph Smith. You just simply assume by simply grabbing something out of the text in the scriptures. Too weak Job Bautista. Kaya napakalinaw na ang aral ng Lds church ay aral ng kulto at aral ng Anti-Cristo. And until you fail you still manage to turn the topic into a false accusation. This is how you people never understand the truth because of your teachings on scorning, lying and deceiving. This has been the only living proof that you can't make a healthy discussion and end up calling someone false without any proof.

In conclusion, I don't think you understood the scriptures very well of maybe some ministers are trying to inject that in your mind the principle that has nothing to do in Christ Deity. We believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, the Savior, Redeemer, judge and the Holy One of Israel, that's not ordinary man, but rather a God who was with the Father in the Beginning. Thank you and have a wonderful day. 

Some True Bug

You have heard someone call it Assassin Bug, and some others Kissing Bugs or maybe bedbugs. LOL! But actually this are True Bugs. Why was that, this insect used their sucking tube (proboscis) to earn a living. Some type of True Bugs were stinky and some has no odor. The Stink was actually a diversion or a common defense mechanisms for predictors to avoid being eaten. You may find it very friendly since they used tubes as their mouths unlike other insect like Bees or ants used a pincers or mandibles to slice their food. But careless handling of bug such as this could be very disappointing if you don't know which bug it is, this bug could liquefy their food in minutes using their saliva, like assassin bugs that could kill in just seconds and liquefy their victims internal organs and sucks it like juice. It's very painful than an ant sting.

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God Gave Them Knowledge

Watch a short film about Daniel's Knowledge and skill by observing the Laws of that was given to them by the Lord. They were blessed because of obedience.

Daniel Interprets the Kings Nebuchadnezzar Dream. See Daniel 1-2.


Daniel 1

17 ¶ As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
18 Now at the end of the days that the king had said he should bring them in, then the prince of the eunuchs brought them in before Nebuchadnezzar.
19 And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.
20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Beautiful Tiny Moth

I caught a tiny moth with a black spot and pink body. Can you name it? this one is so beautiful and tiny, I decide to let it go as nature goes. Video was taken around second week of August 2021 and was edited last August 20, 2021. I forgot to cover the who story on how I caught this tiny moth.

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Joseph Smith Polygamy: Fanny Alger

I suppose to post this last July 6, 2021 but I withhold it for some reason that I would like to add some source regarding Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger relationship and some controversy. Here is a video from Saints Unscripted might be of help and I would add some of sources if I could collect the entire event. Anyway, enjoy -

Job Bautista's Alas referencing the Book of Mormon

He posted this on his Facebook Timeline
Not knowing what it was all about.

Let's get over to this Job Bautista's Critics claiming his Church is true using the Book of Mormon as his reference. This is kinda funny but let's dive into this poor criticism - 

This is one of his posts and he thinks he has something to bring. Okay, so let's debunk it and see how he fails.

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Jerry Nuñez Bustillo 

May isa pa uli akong alas na talagang Church of Christ ang pangalan ng Iglesia na itinayo ni Cristo ayon sa Mateo 16:18 at ipinangaral ng mga Apostol ni Cristo ayon sa Roma 16:16. This has been debunked over and over and he still can't understand the scripture. One thing is for sure is if the Church of Christ was the official name established by Christ, it wasn't the INC establish by Felix Manalo. This guy seriously needs to work out his belief and understanding of the scriptures. He just simply assumes that the registered church name is necessary to claim it as a true Church not knowing how the messenger was called and the authority from heaven. He doesn't know that and he doesn't care.

Well anyways, Greek Text using NA28 of this verse Romans 16:16 clearly state about plural term churches. Here's the text about it

16 ἀσπάσασθε ἀλλήλους ἐν φιλήματι ἁγίῳ. ἀσπάζονται ὑμᾶς αἱ ἐκκλησίαι πᾶσαι τοῦ Χριστοῦ.

The word (ἐκκλησίαι - ekklēsiai) in English means "Churches" followed with (πᾶσαι - pasai) which means "All" and (Χριστοῦ - Christou) for "of Christ".

Does Job Bautista think about it? No, I guess not. He just simply get the words never thinks what it was all about.

At alam ba ninyo na kahit ang BOM nagpatotoo nito? Basahin natin ;

yeah we all know that. We used the scripture booth the Bible and the Book of Mormon in personal study. We are aware of your problem. 

 4 Nephi 1: 1 And it came to pass that the thirty and fourth year passed away, and also the thirty and fifth, and behold the disciples of Jesus had formed a CHURCH OF CHRIST in all the lands round about. And as many as did come unto them, and did truly repent of their sins, were baptized in the name of Jesus; and they did also receive the Holy Ghost.

So, the disciples in former times establish a church of Christ in all the Land. Take note it doesn't say anything about the official name but rather a Church (or a group of believers) a people who accept the Gospel of Christ. That has nothing to do with buildings name or registered sect name nowadays, but rather a group of people who worship and believe in Christ as God and Savior. Does he even think about it? As I always said to this Job Bautista and it has all over in this blog that a church can be true if it was restored by God through his servants who hold the Revelation and Authority. You don't have that Job Bautista, so don't even think about boasting your church name game that has nothing to do with salvation. You fail.

Job Bautista: Christ the Creator

Job Bautista simply assume this is a false doctrine of LDS he never realized almost all Christian denominations understand the words written in the scriptures about Christ as the creator. For instance, here are some of the links I collected for reference -

• Christ the Creator - www.westmont.edu.
• https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-the-Creator.html
• https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/christ-creator/
• https://answersingenesis.org/jesus/jesus-is-god/is-jesus-the-creator-god/
• https://www.theologyofwork.org/new-testament/hebrews/christ-created-sustains-the-world-hebrews-11-28

And there are lots of compile writings, not even an official LDS doctrine, and yet believe Christ was the Creator of all things.

Only the INC who has a poor exegesis never understood the writings of the scriptures because of their uninspired ministers who told them what to study and use to avoid the truth. Here's the example below of Job Bautista's poor understand and let's help him learn the truth about it.

See this video to understand our belief in Christ - https://youtu.be/TapRlpkp4-0

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Mormon false doctrine .

Jesus Christ created the heavens and the earth.

              VERSUS

NKJV Bible. Isaiah 40:28

[28]Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, The Creator of the ends of the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable.

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First things first. Christ created the heavens and the Earth. Let try to understand how the scriptures say -

The Holy One is the Creator

Isaiah 43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

Isaiah 41:20 That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the Lord hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.

The scripture clearly says it, the Holy One hath created. And who's the Holy One of God? Let's take a closer look at different scriptures -

Luke 4:24; Mark 1:24

Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.

On our first attempt, we hath understand that the scripture knows Christ as the Holy One, and the Holy One was no other than the creator of Heaven and Earth and everything therein.

The Word was God

These self-explanatory scriptures are so plain in the understanding. Let's take a look and learn how Christ as the Word was the Creator. In these few scriptures, we will understand that Christ is a different or separate being aside from the Father and that the Father hath given all things under his Son. See below - 

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Psalm 33:6 By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
...
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

The Redeemer was the Creator

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

The scripture also helps us understand that Christ is also the Redeemer. See scripture below -

Galatians 4

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Titus 2:
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These verses above help us understand Christ's role as the Redeemer and there is only one Redeemer who also created all things was no other than God.

See also Colossians 1:13-17

The Son of God, the Creator

Colossians 1

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Hebrew 1

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

1 Corinthians 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Other things lead us directly as to who Christ was before the foundation of the world or who was he before Abraham or before he was born. And yet this INC never realizes the importance of Christ's existence because they only believe that Christ appeared only after he was born of Mary and that he was a mere human. These important mysteries were not revealed to INC because they don't have authority from heaven and no revelation receive from their ministers and even their Sugo or Angel Called Felix Y. Manalo. These people are not well oriented to the truth but what their ministers feed them they just simply take it as doctrine not knowing the context of the scriptures. They are so ignorant to the truth and Arrogant in every discussion because of Bigotry.

Job Bautista: Study of Church Name Game

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

Ayon kay Mr. Little bit Harder , gumamit siya ng mga pangalan ng Local ng INC sa unang siglo upang palabasin na marsmi diumano ang Iglesia na itinayo ni Panginoong Jesus at tinatawag sa ibsng pangalan ? 

Wrong: it was never at the time of Christ it was rather a time after Christ Ascension. Job Bautista's studies were too poor to comprehend the Scriptures. He just simply loves twisting the truth and turns them into their very own man ade doctrine. Here let me show you some of his Fail Study.

Kung ating susuriin ang Mateo 16:18 ay binanggit doon na itatayo ko ang AKING IGLESIA . Singular lamang ang pagkabanggit  at hindi binubuo ng maraming Iglesia . Christ build his church yes you got that right and it is just one church but not INC 1914. It was no other than the Church of Jesus Christ or the Church of God.

kaya sablay itong si Mr. Little bit Harder sa kanyang unawa. Are you sure, or maybe you still brought your bigoted study with you? Not new to me. 

Ang Iglesia na ito ay nag simula sa munting KAWAN  ayon sa Lukad 12:32. And seems like it has nothing to do with your Church Name Game. Sorry, it is never an INC and would never be in Philippines. Na ang tinutukoy na KAWAN ay ang Iglesia ni Cristo ayon sa Gawa 20:28 lamsa . And there goes the Bigotry. You seems to use Lamsa version as to cover up the Greek standard Koine version. Why was that? Because you can't accept Christ is God, because of Bigotry. Still thirsty for more? Anyway, let try to see Greek standard translation and we will use Nestle Arland and UBS to clarify each words. 

NA28 - 

ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ20:28 προσέχετε ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ, ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ θεοῦ, ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ ἰδίου.

UBS GNT5 -

Acts 20:28προσέχετε ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ, ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ θεοῦ, ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ ἰδίου.

So how it was written? (ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ θεοῦ) Clearly it was the Church of God. The only thing Job Bautista maintain his Lamsa version because of his Bigotry, he cannot simply use a Greek Septuagint or the original Greek version because it contradict their very own man made doctrine of INC

Dahil sa pinagusig itong KAWAN ni PJC ay nangalat ito at nakarating sa iba't ibang dako na binabanggit ni Jerry ( Mr.Little bit Harder ) subalit ito po ay isang Katawan lamang ni Cristo at may isang ulo. The church only got one Head and that was Christ no question about it. I don't know what are you up to, but this seems like you thinks I'm to poor to understand the scriptures. Too bad sir, I'm not like you. You better have your bible with you and understand it rather pick up only which was right in your own man made doctrine. Colosas 1:18 kaya sa mata ng Diyos ito anv bagong tao na nilalang niya sa pamamagitan ni Panginoong Jesus. Walang binabanggit na Maraming Katawan ? Still you have made a wrong assumptions enough of your Personalized doctrine. I'm used to it. Ang katawan na binabanggit ay bagama' iisa ito ay may maraming sangkap na napaloob lamang sa isang Katawan o Iglesia 1 Cor. 12:27. So I guess you don't understand the first article address to you. You should make a good answer than that. Your intention simply to divert it to a different insight which indeed make you cunning and unworthy in accepting the truth. Good try but not good enough.

Dahil sa ngalat ang Kawan ni Cristo nakarsting ito sadako ng mga Hentil. Roma 16:4 . ito ay tinawag na Iglesia ni Cristo ayon sa mga Roma 16:16. And there you use the Word Church of Christ using Roman 16:16 but in fact it was used as a plural term as to a Churches that was build by Christ through the spreading of the Gospel. He is trying to trick a word shift game to maintain their teachings. How stupid was that. Too much Bigotry. 

May hula si Panginoong Jesus na itong Iglesia ni ya ay ililigaw ng bulaang propheta 1 Tim. 4:1,3 , ito anv paglitaw naman ni Joseph smith ayon sa Mateo 24:4 , Marami ang kanilang ililigaw Mat. 24:11 . Wrong: your creating a fallacy of Hasty Generalization by just claiming something you can't support. Get a life bro. You people are so devilish, this is not a Christian teaching that of claiming something it is because of some claims. Christ clearly said to beware of false prophets... and by their fruits ye shall know them... This Job Bautista failed to understand the the Scripture that he even failed to realized that his So called Sugo doesn't have any fruit to tell his story and how he was called by God and how did he receive the authority. This Guy's simple make the biggest mistake of their religion and I would simply ask if there is a minister who knows him to question his understanding about Christ words. His devilic motive will just simply adds darkness to INC Doctrine.

Kanilang ipangaral ng huwad na Religion na hindi naman itinatag ni Panginoong Jesus st tatawagin silang Lds church kasalungat sa aral na tinataguyod ng Tunay na Kawan ni Panginoong Jesus. Sa Pangalan palanv magkaiba na . And there's the name game again and yet you diverted it to a different insights. So tell me Job as the question that I ask one time.

• Was the Church Name important or the authority?
• If it's all about the church name, then all we need to do to obtain salvation is to rename the church to Iglesia Ni Christo, was it right?
• If not, then there's no need in discussing Church Name Game. 

Ang salita ni PJC ay salita ng Diyod na nag sugo sa kanya ayon sa Heb. 1:1-2 , and have you understand the words in that scripture?

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry timesand  in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

If you think it was Christ, then you should believe that it was also him who made the world. There are complicated words if we go to it further but this time it's not necessary to add that here. at ito ay ipinasulat ang salita ng Diyos . Jeremias 30:2 , you just simply mixed up the topic by just referencing irrelevant scripture verses. Jeremiah was instructed to write the Revelation he received and of course it was written in the Book of Jeremiah. This has nothing to do with the main topic and not even too close to say it's all about the scriptures. Jeremiah's words are exclusive to the revelations he received, not the entire Bible. I don't know what are you up to and this is a total out of content topic. at ito ay nakasulat sa Banal na kasulatan ayon sa 2 Tim. 3:16-17 Paul's instruction to Timothy has nothing to do with the entire Bible, during those time the Bible is not yet compiled and Timothy's knowledge about the scripture was no other that the Torah of there days, Timothy is will learn about the laws and the Prophets and Paul encouraged him to understand and read the scriptures. Simply, you don't know a thing about this verses. Ask your minister to help you about it. na ito ay natatskan na at huwag na dagdagan ni babawasan ayon sa Rev. 22:18-19. And here's another wrong ideology, you must understand how that word was written. John's revelation was written in the Patmos Isle and ofcourse it is a separate writings. John's caution was all about the revelations he received and during those time revelation was a separate writting to the other epistles of the apostles. And which in fact his warning was all about his sole book or the book of revelation alone. You fail to understand the scriptures because of your bigotry and man-made doctrine. See for example in the Book of Moses that also warns the same thing. 

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

So why added words and even books after it? Simply because it was all about the revelations receive during those times and they're commanded not to add or diminish the words that was already proclaimed. See how ignorant you are? 

Subalit ang bulaang propeta at gumawa din ng kasulatan na liban sa Biblia . Fail: Christ Said and I'll recall it again here - by their fruits ye shall know them. There's only one good evidence to know that the prophet was called of God and that is though their fruit. The book of Mormon prove that Christ restores his Church through his servants the Prophets and God will always provide ways to communicate to his people. But you INC cults could not provide even one example on how Felix Manalo was called by God and how did he receive revelation. You can't even proclaim how he was called and when did God speaks to him from heaven. ZERO. SO, WHO'S THE FALSE CHURCH?

Ito ay tinatawag nil na book of mormon na may nihil of obstat ni Sator ayon sa Rev. 12:9 na siyang dumays sa kanila . Don't make any made stories that you can't even support. This simply tells someone your deceiving just to get their attention. If you think that is, then expound it using any source to prove your claim. But to say something not re elevant to the subject is just simply a diversions to avoid the truth being told. ibang evangelio ang tinataguyod ng the polygamist church ni Joseph Smith. And seems like your childish act was begging to twist the topic. Too bad you can't support it not a single source. ito ang primary doctrine ng alagad ni Sator ang mapangalunya ayon sa Rev. 21:8 magkakamit daw sila ng pangako na buhay na walang hanggang ang  mga taong nasa kaliwang kamay ni Panginoong Jesus . And here's another wrong and lying style of INCultic doctrine to deceive, this is one of their technique to lead people as try as a wolf in Sheep's clothing. Sila daw anv mga kambing dahil hindi naman sila kabilang sa Kawan ni Panginoong Jesus. If you are a honest truth seekers or if you have the truth and wanted to share it, it not necessary to make such a stupid claim like this. Your lying and deceiving simply tell someone that you don't have the truth but rather a hate and rudeness in your arrongance. Your such a Bigot Job Bautista and you will never be a good Christian, no such thing as INCult Christian. You're not a Christian Church, prove me wrong. If so, then start acting as a Christian without hate and lying. 

Neil Andi Anderson: Melissa Schindle - a 5 dollar offer

Comparing to someone else
doesn't make your church true.
This Arrogance prove how
dirty you are in a discussions.
This also proves you know nothing
rather copy paste to a weak sources
And claim you know something
About your claim.

Okay, here let me help you in your so called 5 dollar payment for a night. Seems like you know nothing about it. Let's dive in, and take a closer study.

#9: Melissa Schindle

Palmer continues to quote John C. Bennett’s publication, History of the Saints, by reproducing an affidavit from Melissa Schindle (p. 14):

In the fall of 1841, she was staying one night with the widow Fuller, who has recently been married to a Mr. Warren, in the city of Nauvoo, and that Joseph Smith came into the room where she was sleeping about 10 o’clock at night, and after making a few remarks came to her bedside, and asked her if he could have the privilege of sleeping with her. She immediately replied no. He, on the receipt of the above answer told her it was the will of the Lord that he should have illicit intercourse with her, and that he never proceeded to do any thing of that kind with any woman without first having the will of the Lord on the subject; and further he told her that if she would consent to let him have such intercourse with her, she could make his house her home as long as she wished to do so, and that she should never want for anything it was in his power to assist her to but she would not consent to it. He then told her that if she would let him sleep with her that night he would give her five dollars but she refused all his propositions. He then told her that she must never tell of his propositions to her, for he had ALL influence in that place, and if she told he would ruin her character, and she would be under the necessity of leaving. He then went to an adjoining bed where the Widow [Fuller] was sleeping got into bed with her and laid there until about 1 o’clock, when he got up, bid them good night, and left them, and further this deponent saith not.

MELISSA (her X mark) SCHINDLE.

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 2d day July, 1842. A. FULKERSON, J. P. (seal).81

Palmer evidently takes this affidavit at face value, writing that on an “1841 evening … Melissa Schindle was propositioned by Smith,” and “Melissa rejected” Joseph Smith’s offer (p. 14). 

However, the affidavit’s credibility is questionable on several grounds.

Schindle’s illiteracy, indicated by her signing an “X,” shows that she would have required assistance from other individuals including, potentially, John C. Bennett to compose the document. Two weeks after the affidavit was published, Melissa Schindle’s moral character was questioned in Nauvoo’s secular newspaper, The Wasp: “Who is Mrs. Shindle? A harlot.”82

Catherine Fuller (see case #10) was tried before the Nauvoo High Council on 25 May 1842 for immoral activity with John C. Bennett. During her trial, she accused Bennett of also sleeping with Melissa Schindle.83 D. Michael Quinn lists her as one of Bennett’s “free-love” companions.84

The events described in the affidavit include several details that seem implausible. In 1841 Nauvoo, no man even Joseph Smith was likely to be allowed to wander into a room where women were already in bed sleeping at ten o’clock at night.

Schindle’s claim that Joseph Smith “told her it was the will of the Lord that he should have illicit intercourse with her” depicts him as an adulterous hypocrite, acknowledging from the onset that the relationship would have been “illicit.” Such a depiction of the Prophet contradicts the numerous other public and private evidences that Joseph taught and practiced a different moral standard.

It is also implausible that the Prophet would offer Schindle to “make his house her home” if she would acquiesce. It seems clear that Emma, the Prophet’s legal wife, would not have tolerated such an arrangement at their Nauvoo homestead. 

(The Smiths did not move into the spacious Nauvoo Mansion until August of 1843.)

The offering of money, “five dollars,” is also singular. None of Joseph’s plural wives reported any promises of material benefits or financial favors to them. Plural wife Lucy Walker recalled Joseph telling her as he discussed a plural sealing with her: “I have no flattering words to offer.”85 There is simply too much here that does not add up.

Sources 

81. John C. Bennett, letter dated 27 June 1842, “Bennett’s Second and Third Letters,” Sangamo Journal, Springfield, Ill., 15 July 1842. Reproduced in Bennett’s History of the Saints: or, An Exposé of Joe Smith and Mormonism (Boston: Leland & Whiting, 1842), 253–54, https://archive.org/details/historysaints00benngoog

82. The Wasp, “Extra” edition, Wednesday, 27 July 1842. The Wasp names her “Shindle,” while Bennett’s Sangamo Journal and History of the Saints account uses “Schindle” (see note 81 above).

83. Catherine Fuller testimony before the Nauvoo High Council, 25 May 1842; copy of holograph in Valeen Tippitts Avery Collection, Utah State University, Logan, Utah. See further discussion on pp. 219–20 below.

84. D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1994), 536.

85. Quote in Lyman Omer Littlefield, Reminiscences of Latter-day Saints: Giving an Account of Much Individual Suffering Endured for Religious Conscience (Logan, Utah: Utah Journal Co., 1888), 47

My only invitation to you.
Provide a reliable source
Rather trash and a stupid
hearsays from your INC media.

Neil Andi Anderson: a Bigoted Minister who posted a trash long been debunk - Levi Lewis Story

Let's try to see one of the trash that has been recycled by one of our INC friends who loves to post trash that makes them look dumb. Let's dive into his post -

 

He said Levi Lewis was Joseph's
Right Hand who knows
Joseph Personally.
Honestly, I never even heard
this guy was his right hand.
See how this Neil Andi Anderson
Love to tell lies and deceive
just to get converts to their
INC cult doctrine.

And here's a full text of his claim -

Oh, really? And how many anti-Mormon
trash will you still keep in your pocket.
This one has been proven already
and you still keep it for a reference?

Nice try, but not good enough. You should dig deeper to it. And every claim seems so absurd without any second witness to prove. Here is a link to that claim from FAIRLDS -

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Question:_Did_Levi_Lewis_claim_that_Joseph_tried_to_seduce_Eliza_Winters_in_1830%3F

Simply, you are misinformed and try to think I'm not aware of any of that. Sorry, not a good source to deceive. Better luck next time.

INC: A Church who teaches to be Rude and Childish.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

- 1 Corinthians 13:10-11
 

One of Job Baptista's post
and how he managed to call
someone rudely and bullied.
The Only church that teaches hate
to everyone who's
of a different faith.

INC church of Manalo will never learn the scriptures in their life they just simply misunderstood its writings and use the word of God for hate and to use it as weapons. This kind of hatred is circulating in the entire social Media creating their own group and scorning to someone's belief. This Job Bautista is one of those rude people hiding in a fake account to avoid being questioned by their standards as written in their Fundamental Belief.

James 1

26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

So, why would join such stupid religion who teaches hate and address anyone as their enemy?

I would recommend someone whose not a member of this church not to investigate or avoid this kind of religion, rather study the scriptures and ask God to direct you to the right path that teaches truth and not lies.

Part 1 - Neil Andi Anderson: Responding False Claim

“Do not let arrogance go to your head and despair to your heart;
do not let compliments go to your head and criticisms to your heart;
do not let success go to your head and failure to your heart.”
– Roy T. Bennett

Alright, I will answer you straight, and let's try to understand the certain points of your claim and compare them biblical.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo Jerry boy, di mo kasi alam kung ano ang nangyari sa unang Iglesia ni Cristo, Wrong Assumption, I do know the history of Apostasy and how the church will be restored in the last days. Paul clearly says that and here I gave you example.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Do you think I didn't know that Neil? Your rudeness leads you to your arrogant and it seems you need a better life. siguro naduling ka dahil sa aral ni Junjun Smith. Surely no sir and don't add your arrogance here, if you think you can control me on your bigotry, try it a little bit harder. Matagal na itong ipinangaral ng INC ang pagtatalikod sa unang Iglesia at kung saliksikin man natin itong mabuti mismo ang mga autoridad Katoliko ang magpapatunay sa pamamagitan ng history of the early father of the Catholic Church. Too, lame Catholic Church could never trace there authority and if they do have, this will prove that INC were just an impostor who disguise in sheep clothing. You can't just include catholic without a proper authority tracing, it will end up your church is false who just branches on the same source. Huwag mong isipin na lumitaw na iyong mormon niyo na ayon sa inyo ay isinulat noong 600 na taon bago lumitaw ang Iglesia sa Jerusalem. We never told that story, and we never claim we are ahead of Christ Church, but rather the church and the gospel was restored through his servants the prophets. This too much assumption seem ignorant to the truth. You simply cant proclaim the truth because of your arrogance. Itatak mo sa isip mo iyan ay isang fiction sa mga taong walang magawa sa buhay. Have you think that same question lately Neil? Have you ever think that Manalo was just a con man tricked you in his own understanding about his own knowledge on scriptures without any guidance from heaven? Your too childish to suggest something youd never done. Itatak mo sa utak mo bago natapos ang bagong testamento kay Cristo ay hindi umabot ng isang daang taon. This prove that you don't know a thing. You talk about apostasy but you never knew how long it take before it was restored. After the prophets and Apostles died because of persecutions what happens next to it? Your ideology about Apostasy is not deep enough to know the entire truth and yet you claim you know such thing. Just as I said, you're arrogant to know the truth. Ill give you a short information from wiki to know more about apostasy. Be sure to read and understand it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Apostasy Paano pa kaya itong si Junjun noong 1800 na may kodego na siya sa pag-gawa sa nitong imbentong libro niya.  Empty Accusation, this truly tells us that INC are good at lying, they just lie just to lead and brainwash people away from the truth and he think I didn't know such thing. Here's a short video to your lying and deceiving if it is true. Check all of it to make sure your know such thing before posting a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_0JKtjgzbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsgl2pvssPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LdR7BoI6F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xE1Byp00M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTsCDwS6oA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjYrYMG7naE

If you think you had the truth, then give some sources rather posting lies that didn't even too close to an actual event. Kaya madali niyang magawa ito. (If you think so, then where's your source? EMPTY right?) Kaya makilala natin ang kanyang sinasabi na itoy mula lamang sa kanyang pag-iisip dahil ang bibliya din ang magtutuklas na siyay sa diyablo, Balikan natin kung ano ang nangyari sa iglesia ni Cristo at ito bay may panukala na mula ng mga apostoles. Ito ang sinabi ni apostol Pablo:, Okay, so let's go and compare your understanding scriptural to scriptural and see if you have the truth.

 ..................................................................................................................................................."Huwag kayong padaya kanino man sa anomang paraan: sapagka't ito'y hindi darating, maliban nang dumating ang pagtatalikod, at mahayag ang taong makasalanan, ang anak ng kapahamakan" (2Tes.2:3) Ano po ang babala ni Apostol Pablo? Di pa dumating ang Cristo may darating una ang pagtatalikod sa iglesia ni Cristo. Yeah I know, I already posted that, but the thing is you don't know how the apostasy happen, just simply copy and paste source from your very own INC Media. Nothing more nothing less. Kaya hindi totoo sa sinabi mo utoy Jerry na may iglesia ni Cristo nay itoy mula sa 33AD. Wrong! First of All, I never said anything that there was IGLESIA NI CHRISTO 33 AD, but rather I posted a picture comparing Church of Christ and INC of which church was true since Job Bautista's stupid study claim the true church carries it's name. So I give the Church of Christ 33 AD and post a picture and compare it. But what happens next was that this arrogant seems to think that I claim it, rather trying to brought a question as to which is which should I join. See how arrogant you are Neil? Second of All, Christ already Build his church and it was never about the name church game, Christ never said anything about the only church name Christian should use or else they will be damn. But rather he gave authorities to some twelve to declare his Gospel to every Nation, Kindred and Tongue. See the difference? You're too focus on name game, but never realized how true Manalo receive the authority and when did God gave him that rights and revelation. I would rather believe Quiboloy's story than this INC Failure Stories. Wala na po iyon dahil ang Iglesia ni Cristo dahil itoy nahihitalikod di na natin magigisnan iyon kundi Iglesia Katolika. Kaya ang propesiya ni Apostol Pablo ay natupad. For sure it was, and for sure INC was not involve in the prophesy. Prove me wrong. Pero may pangako ang Cristo nawala man ang kawan dahil itoy lubhang inuusig at napapasukan sa mga huwad na mangangaral. Ang pangako ay nanatili na may ibang tupa ang Panginoon na di kasali sa kawan noong unang siglo na sabi niya dadalhin din niya ito “At mayroon pa akong ibang mga tupa, na hindi sa kulungang ito: sila'y kailangan din ... Samakatuwid, ang kawan ay ang Iglesia Ni Cristo. (Juan10:16) Wrong! Christ did never tell such story as the fulfillment of the INC in the Philippines. Things you should know first before going to this story. First, the Gospel was never yet introduce to the Gentile nation during Christ proclamation. Christ even disregard preaching to the nation those time. See for example his instruction to the twelve in preaching the Gospel during their time

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

which means during Christ ministry, the gospel was not yet instructed and introduced to the gentile nation not until after his death in which the instruction were given to preach to the nation or to gentile, and Philippines is a gentile nation and more accurately during those times Philippine doesn't have any Christianity background. So the question here.

• Why are you INC people, deceived this kind of information to someone who were weak to realized the truth was covered by your lying?
• How long you people keep that kind of scheme?

And second, He meant about the other sheep not his fold. The other sheep simply mean people who already believe in him but unfortunately not in Jerusalem. Yes, Philippines is not in Jerusalem, but do they already know during Christ Proclamation. There are other Lost Sheep of the House of Israel as Christ said earlier and Philippines is not in the House of Israel but a Gentile nation. See how you people understand the scripture differently and lying to some people who never knew about the scriptures. This is so devilish and a self-proclaim practices of a cult claiming they are the one's who were prophesied by simply twisting the truth.

Ito din ang kawan na tinubos ni Cristo sa pamamagitan ng kanyang dugo. Fail! Don't even think of anything that you can't trace your authority from heaven. You people are stuck to your bigotry. Don't fool on me and tell me I knew nothing of your teachings. And please, stop doing that Arrogant name calling. You're too old enough to act too childish. Kaya utoy Jerry di po magbabago ang pangalan mananatili itong Iglesia ni Cristo. Fail! it's not about Church Name Game it is all about authority, you people can't trace your authority from God, not even Felix Manalo can tell you his side of story that God talks to him and directed him about the truth. So, if you think it was about names, you keep your business name to somewhere else, it has nothing to do about Christianity. Kaya sabi ko sa iyo na ito ang ikatlong bahagi sa kawan na itinayo ni Cristo. There is no such thing as Third Part as the Philippines, the third part was mentioned in the bible were no other than the remnant of the house of Judah. You people are slicing the same Brand of Cake and claim it is of the other brand and deceive someone to eat it. No, not me and if you want to prove me about it. just bring it on and I will show you how wrong your understanding about the scriptures. Ang aral o ebanghelyo ay walang pagbabago, di po totoo na pwede bagohin ang aral dahil ang sugo sa 1800 ay isang manyakis at dapat pagbigyan ng kanilang Diyos. And see how arrogant you are, making a claim without anything to prove is so arrogant and will just divert it just to have the bright side in you. Too weak Neil and you'll never learn. Stop acting like you know such thing and claim you belong to some certain group when you're not. Your lying won't work. Walang katotohanan iyan utoy Jerry. Really, and where do you think I could find it? In INC? Sorry, Try Again. Uulitin ko po ang INC na mula sa 1914 ay tinubos din sa pamamagitan ng dugo ng ating Panginoong Jesus. (Act20:28) Every Church can claim that, not just INC 1914 and in fact you Messenger Felix Manalo did not even declare he has that authority to preach that the only church was redeemed was the INC. He can't prove that, he can't even prove he has revelation receive from heaven to declare such thing. So much of a false Messenger. Di po kasali ang mormon dito dahil exclusive lang ito sa INC. How Childish, and How many Churches in General agree to that childish claim. You are too naive and will never learn anything from the scriptures with bigotry. The only thing you can do to let go of that INC cult doctrine is to center your study on the scriptures and stop referencing it to your Man made doctrine. You will never learn to embrace the truth with that kind of attitude.