Stop the nonsense, no Christians ever used any other teachings when it comes of doing a doctrine, reproof or do correction. But the gospel taught Christians to continue in the Holy Scriptures inspired of God, That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. Compared in the gospel;
II TIMOTHY 3:
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Own righteousness like you just posts above is not Christian's proper reproving, there's some kind of zeal of God, problem is, NOT ACCORDING TO KNOWLEDGE and the proof also, you never submit yourself in His righteousness that's in Christ Jesus. Compared in spiritual things with spiritual;
ROMANS 10:
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Other term in gospel of using your own righteousness is private interpretation, which no man of God did the same, for when they speak pertaining of Him or used of any prophesy in scriptures, they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Compared in spiritual things with spiritual;
II PETER 1:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Another gospel teaches Christian, that we only continue to hold on in doctrine of Christ until His return, for Spirit said no more other burden for us to carry but the gospel of the Second Covenant. Compared;
REVELATION 2:
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.
29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Lastly, no one should add or delete in other words or takes away from the words of this book of the prophesy. So, what MORMONS did by making their own gospel, contradicted in God righteousness. Compared in gospel;
REVELATION 22:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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Okay, so Richard Carey, you quoted 2 Timothy 3, Romans 10, 2 Peter 1, Revelation 2, and Revelation 22 as if they automatically destroy the Restored Gospel. Pero kapag binasa nang may context, hindi ganoon ang ibig sabihin nila. Let us examine them one by one - hindi private interpretation, kundi actual setting ng mga talata.Una, 2 Timothy 3:14-17
Paul was writing to Timothy about the Old Testament scriptures Timothy had known “from a child.” The New Testament itself was not yet complete when Paul wrote those words. Kung susundin natin ang strict reading mo, then even the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament would be “adding” to what Timothy already had. The verse teaches that Scripture is profitable for doctrine and correction; hindi nito sinasabi na ang canon ay forever closed noong 65 AD.
Paul was writing to Timothy about the Old Testament scriptures Timothy had known “from a child.” The New Testament itself was not yet complete when Paul wrote those words. Kung susundin natin ang strict reading mo, then even the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament would be “adding” to what Timothy already had. The verse teaches that Scripture is profitable for doctrine and correction; hindi nito sinasabi na ang canon ay forever closed noong 65 AD.
Pangalawa, Revelation 22:18-19 -
This warning is specifically about "the words of the prophecy of this book," the book of Revelation. John was not declaring that God would never speak again after 96 AD. Kung gawin nating universal ang “do not add,” then the entire New Testament after the earliest letters would be under the same curse. Context matters. Huwag nating kunin ang isang warning tungkol sa isang aklat at gawing blanket ban sa lahat ng future revelations.
Pangatlo, Romans 10:1-4 -
Paul was speaking about Israelites who tried to establish their own righteousness through the law instead of submitting to Christ’s righteousness. That is not a description of Latter-day Saints who testify that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ, His Atonement, and His grace. Having additional scripture that points people to Christ is not “own righteousness.” It is another witness of Him.
This warning is specifically about "the words of the prophecy of this book," the book of Revelation. John was not declaring that God would never speak again after 96 AD. Kung gawin nating universal ang “do not add,” then the entire New Testament after the earliest letters would be under the same curse. Context matters. Huwag nating kunin ang isang warning tungkol sa isang aklat at gawing blanket ban sa lahat ng future revelations.
Pangatlo, Romans 10:1-4 -
Paul was speaking about Israelites who tried to establish their own righteousness through the law instead of submitting to Christ’s righteousness. That is not a description of Latter-day Saints who testify that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ, His Atonement, and His grace. Having additional scripture that points people to Christ is not “own righteousness.” It is another witness of Him.
Pang-apat, 2 Peter 1:20-21 -
True, prophecy does not come by private interpretation; wala naman nag-oppose sayo dyan. And that is why we look to living prophets and apostles under the direction of the Holy Ghost, the same pattern found throughout the Bible (Amos 3:7; Ephesians 4:11-14). The verse condemns private invention, not authorized additional revelation.
Richard Carey, here’s the direct challenge -
We accept the Bible as the word of God. We also accept that the same God who spoke to prophets anciently can speak again. That is not "another gospel." That is consistency with the biblical pattern of revelation. Nasubrahan ka yata sa kapanatiko?
Kung handa kang mag-debate nang text by text, context by context, sabihin mo lang. Pero huwag mong i-frame ang usapan bilang "Mormons add and therefore are cursed" kung ikaw mismo ay gumagamit ng mga talata nang labas sa orihinal na setting nila.
The scriptures you quoted do not say what you claim they say when read carefully. Ready when you are.
True, prophecy does not come by private interpretation; wala naman nag-oppose sayo dyan. And that is why we look to living prophets and apostles under the direction of the Holy Ghost, the same pattern found throughout the Bible (Amos 3:7; Ephesians 4:11-14). The verse condemns private invention, not authorized additional revelation.
Richard Carey, here’s the direct challenge -
Kung ang standard mo ay "Bible alone, nothing else, ever," then prove from the text itself, without assuming a closed canon, that God permanently stopped all further scripture and prophetic direction after the first century. Show us where the Bible declares that the collection of books later called the "Bible" is the final and only possible word God will ever give. Huwag mong i-quote ang Revelation 22 nang hindi isinasama ang context nito. Huwag mong gamitin ang 2 Timothy 3 nang hindi inaamin na ang New Testament ay hindi pa kumpletong naisulat noon.
We accept the Bible as the word of God. We also accept that the same God who spoke to prophets anciently can speak again. That is not "another gospel." That is consistency with the biblical pattern of revelation. Nasubrahan ka yata sa kapanatiko?
Kung handa kang mag-debate nang text by text, context by context, sabihin mo lang. Pero huwag mong i-frame ang usapan bilang "Mormons add and therefore are cursed" kung ikaw mismo ay gumagamit ng mga talata nang labas sa orihinal na setting nila.
The scriptures you quoted do not say what you claim they say when read carefully. Ready when you are.
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