The teaching of the members of MORMON-LDS are confusing - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata (aka REBUKER)



“The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven. - Joseph Smith Jr.”


And here's a funny mental gymnast of our INC's friendly neighborhood Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. Thinking this was the teachings of the LDS without knowing, he was fooled by someone whom he didn't know, and guess what, he took the bait. LOL! Nice try, Jose!

The teaching of the members of MORMON-LDS are confusing.

Really, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? How confused are you, Jose? Or more accurately, how much do you know about the LDS teaching VS your own ideology from Manalo's Church? You can't even provide evidence of any claim from your Manalo teachings that it was true; you just keep on running and jumping on different topics to just simply call out attention. We understand that you have a mental issue or Histrionic Personality Disorder, but please don't use it around just to act like an idiot.

So let's go over to your program -

They do not belongs to God 100% sure.

Seriously, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? Just how do you elaborate on your Straw Man argument without even a position? You lack a ground to stand on your claim by simply copy-pasting verses that you don't even know the context. Do I really need to educate you over and over with your senseless argument?

1 Corinthians 14:33 - King James Version
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

The Above verse has nothing to do with his argument, so it's just simply a copy-paste fail.

They belongs to their father the inventor of lie.

Still lacks a position. You can't even provide evidence of your claim. That same argument can easily be thrown back to your Felix Manalo, the Father of the INC of the Philippines Cult, that lie for fame and money. So what about that Jose Rodelio Retome Rata?

John 8:44 - Complete Jewish Bible
44 You belong to your father, Satan, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. From the start he was a murderer, and he has never stood by the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is speaking in character; because he is a liar — indeed, the inventor of the lie!

The Above verse has nothing to do with his argument, so it's just simply a copy-paste fail.

The saying of apostle Paul fulfilled to them.

Again, you have zero standing to make a claim; that is simply a Straw Man Argument, and you have no position on that claim. This can easily apply to you and your religion. Stop making a claim without understanding the real argument or issue, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.

1 Timothy 1:7 - Easy-to-Read Version
7 They want to be teachers of the law,[a] but they don’t know what they are talking about. They don’t even understand the things they say they are sure of.

Paul's epistle to Timothy, where he tries to help him open up the Ephesian teachers who were corrupt and misguided, or lacking understanding. So this simply doesn't say anything about Jose Rodelio Retome Rata's argument, rather another failed Copy-paste text from his Skill without understanding the context.

And a shout-out to those people who have been called out in this senseless argument. Welcome to Iglesia Ni Christo (The Church of Man Christ)!

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo Marites Palos Salinas Paul Henrie Robert Gurr Vicente de la Paz Ocsar Daniel Bahena Danilo Zuasola Pax Samoana Vernon Mancer Roy Adams

Actual post that he posted on his wall,
and to call out whoever he wants to satisfy
his craving for attention.


A screenshot that has been added to his post,
without knowing the people who commented,
it already answers his confusion.

A funny comment that I made to help him
that he had been duped by someone.

From the Screenshot that I pointed out,
this is just simply trolling,
or maybe he is just making this post for fun,
and Jose Rodelio Retome Rata
didn't realize that these people who commented already
told him not to take the bait,
but Jose Rodelio Retome Rata (aka Rebuker), didn't.
Of course, he's an idiot.





Yeah sure. So here's my presentation below,
and tell me how you understand it, Jose.

Does the Church teach that Joseph Smith was already resurrected?

Straight answer, NO! And nowhere in his comment did he even say that it was a resurrected Joseph Smith. Just maybe a spiritual experience, which I don't disagree with, which might posibly be happen to anyone for some reason which we do not know as of this moment. But for sure it is not a resurrected being, and I don't even think it was Joseph Smith either, maybe he or she was convinced by their own experience that had added light on their testimonies, but rest assured, the church did not teach anything about resurrected saints like Joseph or some others in later times. There were others like Mose, Elijah, etc appears to Joseph Smith, but that's a different topic. So, no, Jose, you simply misunderstood the statement, combining it with your little mental capacity. LOL!

To summarize it for you, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata -
Scripture is clear that resurrection occurs according to God’s order, not personal claims or assumptions, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata
"Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:23"

Even if someone claims a spiritual experience, that does not automatically mean the appearance of a resurrected person.
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God. - 1 John 4:1"

Spiritual Conception, visions, or personal experiences may occur, but they must not be exaggerated into doctrine, especially when the Church itself has never taught such a thing. And again, Jose. It is true, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, that Moses and Elijah appeared in sacred contexts (Matthew 17:3; Doctrine & Covenants 110). However, these appearances were exceptional, divinely purposed events and not a model for interpreting modern claims or personal stories. They do not justify assuming that Joseph Smith, or anyone else, has already been resurrected. That is never taught, so stop assuming that you know everything while you don't, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. The Church has never taught that resurrected saints are regularly appearing in modern times, nor that Joseph Smith is among them. Any claim suggesting otherwise is a personal interpretation, not LDS doctrine. But a new revelation never contradicts established doctrine unless it is necessarily needed to be changed as God permits.

"We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things…” - Articles of Faith 1:9"


This is Funny, I thought it was in the Philippines, but it seems like an Indian INC. LOL


Same Old tricks Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. And still same old running after it was debunked.

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