SI CRISTO ANG UNANG NABUHAY MULA SA MGA PATAY - By Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

Now, this has been over and over since Jose Rodelio Retome Rata doesn't want to move on in the discussion, resorting to circular reasoning to satisfy his bigotry. He knows he will be grilled if Matthew 27:52-53 proves that Christ, with some other saints, was also resurrected at that time. And to avoid the discussion, he uses 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 as a scapegoat, but it turns out to be self-deception, as the context proves contrary to his understanding or far from the issue. Normally, I call it the Wishful-thinking Fallacy, but it almost has to be like it.

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo MAGKANO NA KINITA MO PARA MAKAPAG-IKAPU KA MAHANGIN NA LDS?2CORINTOM 9:7

The Above Text, where he quotes CORINTOM, which biblically doesn't actually exist. LOL! But we can arrange that to help him out. This is actually off topic, but for sure, if I give it a try, he'll surely run away with it.

1 Corinthians 15:20,23

King James Version

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1 Corinto 15:20,23

Ang Pulong Sang Dios

20 Pero ang matuod, nabanhaw si Cristo halin sa kamatayon kag amo ini ang nagapamatuod nga banhawon ang mga patay.

23 Ang pagkabanhaw pasunod. Ang una gid nga nabanhaw amo si Cristo. Pagkatapos, pagbalik niya diri sa kalibutan, mabanhaw man ang iya katawhan.

This was already proven the last time in my previous post. To check out the link, click here (https://bustillo-family.blogspot.com/2025/12/itong-mga-talata-ang-nagpapatunay-by.html) and another one that reposted the same topic, click here (https://bustillo-family.blogspot.com/2025/12/1-corinthians-1520-23-pagkabuhay-issue.html). Since I had already established this in my previous post, let's just clear out what the main issue was all about, and I will add some specific questions about the subject.

• Were there people resurrected soon after Christ was resurrected?
• If there are, then those people whom Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery saw were the resurrected beings, like John the Baptist?
• If Elijah and Moses a translated beings who appeared to Christ with a Glorified body, then it simply proves that the God you worship has no power over death, since you only believe that resurrection only comes after Christ comes, and there's no being who has the same glorified body as the saints in Matthew 27:52-53 that appeared to many.
• If Felix Manalo was the True Prophet in the Philippines, just when did he receive revelation and visions that God called him to do his work?
• What authority does he receive from God, like the authority of the old prophets?

Can you answer the Question, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, or just simply reposting scriptures that you don't even mind understanding the context?

AYON DIYAN SI CRISTO ANG UNANG NABUHAY MULA SA MGA PATAY PAGKATAPOS AY ANG MGA KABILANG SA KANYA SA PAGBABALIK NIYA. NA KASAMANG BUBUHAYIN SILA APOSTOL JUAN, APOSTOL PEDRO AT APOSTOL SANTIAGO.

No question about it since it is not the issue at all. The only thing that you don't want to accept is that God has the power to do as he will and who He will send. There were people or saints already had shown their body soon after Christ was resurrected, and obviously, you don't like that idea, simply because Felix Manalo will be put to test on his authority and who gave him the direction and revelation from heaven, of course you don't believe that, you don't believe that God talks to him and told him that he was the Angel from the Far East Philippines that was only made up by the ministers sooner after they stablish the Church to brainwash the Filipino.

1 Tesalonica 4:15-16

Ang Pulong Sang Dios

15 Ginasugid namon sa inyo ang suno sa gintudlo mismo sang Ginoo: nga kita nga mga buhi pa sa pagbalik sang Ginoo indi mag-una sa mga nagkalamatay. 16 Sa sina nga tion ang Ginoo mismo magapanaog halin sa langit nga may pagmando. Mabatian ta ang pagtawag sang pangulo nga anghel kag ang tunog sang trumpeta sang Dios. Kag ang tanan nga nagkalamatay nga nagtuo kay Cristo banhawon anay;

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16

King James Version

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

What was the context of 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16? So here it is for you to learn something new Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, the verses describes Jesus Christ's return, telling us that living or alive believers won't go ahead of the dead in Christ; instead, the Lord will descend with a shout, archangel's call, and trumpet sound, and the dead in Christ will rise first, followed by those still alive, to meet the Lord in the air. So yes, it was all about his second coming and the first resurrection of his Second Coming. But this has nothing to do with Christ in Matthew 27:52-53, during his resurrected body, or the time during his resurrection, were some of the saints rose from the dead to show themselves to the people that they might know and understand Christ.

IYAN ANG UNANG PAGKABUHAY-MULI O FIRST RESURRECTION.

Revelation 20:4-5

King James Version

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Pahayag 20:4-5

Ang Pulong Sang Dios

4 Dayon may nakita ako nga mga trono. Ang mga nagapungko sa mga trono ginhatagan sing awtoridad sa paghukom. Kag nakita ko man ang mga kalag sang mga tawo nga ginpang-utdan sang ulo tungod sang ila pagsugid sang ginpanudlo ni Jesus kag sang pulong sang Dios. Ini sila wala nagsimba sa sapat ukon sa iya rebulto. Wala man sila nagpamarka sang marka sang sapat sa ila agtang ukon sa ila mga kamot. Ginpangbanhaw sila, kag ginpadumala kaupod ni Cristo sa sulod sang 1,000 ka tuig. 5 Amo ini ang una nga pagkabanhaw. (Ang iban nga nagkalamatay wala pagbanhawa samtang wala pa matapos ang 1,000 ka tuig.)

Revelation 20:4-5 was actually the same as the prior verses that he failed to understand. This has the same concept, and yet Jose Rodelio Retome Rata thinks this was the answer to Matthew 27:52-53, which is the main concern of the discussion. He failed miserably, where he thought we didn't believe in the Second Coming and the resurrection of the Dead soon after his coming, when in fact it is one of the doctrines of the LDS. So he seems to have misunderstood the issue and goes on with his appeal to cover up Felix Manalo, that he did not receive any authority from Heaven.

HINDI PA DUMATING SI CRISTO KAYA HINDI PA NABUHAY SILA APOSTOL JUAN, APOSTOL PEDRO AT APOSTOL SANTIAGO.

KASINUNGALINGAN ANG IPINAHAHAYAG NILA JOSEPH SMITH AT OLIVER COWDERY NA NAGPAKITA SA KANILA SILA APOSTOL JUAN, APOSTOL PEDRO AT APOSTOL SANTIAGO.

KAYA 100% NA HUWAD NA RELIHIYON ANG MORMON-LDS!

Again, this is not the issue, and again I don't think I don't believe God could not do what he wants to do to restore the authority from heaven for the sake of Salvation. Seems like your bigotry swallows your understanding of the doctrine of Christ. You simply want to keep it to help Felix Manalo out with the issue. This simply means your bigotry doesn't work and that you fail to defend your ideology and INC in the Philippines. You fail again, missirably, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.