I Am a Child of God: January 2022

IBA Philippines Stake: YSA Conference

These were the Picture Collection during the YSA Conference at Raven Resort last January 12, 2022. Click on the single image to see the rest of the pictures.

Missionaries and INC Discussion

Post in his Wall.
Some of the misleading words
thinking this missionaries
were convinced in their doctrinal teachings.

More pictures below -

I don't know the right source of this picture and I want to know what's is exactly the truth behind it. I don't think I could trust "Ang Katotohanan" about it and he is not transparent and fair. I could tell he is not telling the Katotohanan(Truth) about it.

What We Are Learning and Will Never Forget

Some of the Messages that was collected from April 2021 General Conference.

From a Conference Message
APRIL 2021

An Excerpt from his talks -

If you look at your life prayerfully, I believe you will see many ways in which the Lord has been guiding you through this time of hardship.

Difficult trials often provide opportunities to grow that would not have come in any other way.

If you know of anyone who is alone, reach out—even if you feel alone too! You do not need to have a reason or a message or business to transact. Just say hello and show your love. Technology can help you. Pandemic or not, each precious child of God needs to know that he or she is not alone!

Discipline yourself to have time alone and with your loved ones. Open your heart to God in prayer. Take time to immerse yourself in the scriptures and worship in the temple.

The future is bright for God’s covenant-keeping people. The Lord will increasingly call upon His servants who worthily hold the priesthood to bless, comfort, and strengthen mankind and to help prepare the world and its people for His Second Coming.

Neil Andi Anderson: Baptism Issue (INC Failure Study)

John the Baptist baptizing Jesus Christ

So, here we go again over and over to this Bigoted Neil Andi Anderson who loves his INCultic Manalista Doctrine, and it seems like he missed the whole thing comparing the Bible and the Book of Mormon. The Last time he was silent about my response he didn't even think something or text was used to describe the Old Testament rituals and Doctrine. The fun part, he always insists that this abridged record was of the old Testament times. So I have to go over and educate his slow understanding. Okay, so here we go -

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo Ben Taglocop Portado Saan hanapin truths Sa puwet ng sex lover niyong propeta? He was addressing to me and someone else also the sad truth that he wanted to know. And there goes the immature Arrogance of Neil Andi Anderson. Could a Christian claimed religion could be Christian the way they speak up? INC are arrogant and childish, I would like to post some of these random arrogant comments sometime in this blog for reference. Sinong nag imbento na may binabautismuhan noong 81 BC? He is talking about the abridged record of Mormon from the other plates that he abridges. Anyway, I'll help this guy out of his failure study regarding his concern. For the main time, let's go on and watch how poorly this guy understood the scripture and he even claim an LDS member. So will see. Kahit isang talata ay di mo makikita iyan sa matandang tipan na may nagbautismo ng mga tao. He is talking about Old Testament which is Lumang Tipan in TAGALOG not Matandang Tipan. See how his terminology already lost its credibility. Tapos sabihin niyong nasa truths kayo. Puro na ba kayo mga topak sa utak or mentally dis-order. Sino ba talaga ang unang gumagawa ng pagbabautismo ayon sa bibliya? And here he made a personal attack using AD Hominem. He doesn't know how to deal in a formal discussion. This guy is not yet civilized in using foul words for a formal and decency. INC members are trained to be so rude and provoke to everyone who tries to questions their beliefs. They are so hostile even if their fundamental belief shows and taught them to be Followers of Christ. But simply they can't, the very reason why they hide in their fake account.

Jesus came to John the Baptist while he was baptising people in the River Jordan. John tried to make him change his mind, but Jesus answered, “In this way we will do all that God requires.” So John agreed. As soon as Jesus was baptized, he came up out of the water. Heaven was opened and he saw the spirit of God descending like a doves qwerty ee1~e4313ve and alighting on him. Then a voice said from heaven, “This is my own dear son with whom I am pleased.”(Matthew 3:13-17)

And I don't even know which version you are using. For sure you use it on purpose, or maybe just pick up whatever version that is. Anyway, let's move forward and see his next comments.

So ayon sa kasulatan si Juan ang siyang isinugo sa pamamagitan ng propesiya at itoy natupad sa kanyang pagkatao sa panahon ni Jesus. (Isaiah 41:5-9) Sa kabilang dako naman may taong nagsasabi na noong wala pa si Cristo o tinawag na before Christ nagkahulogan wala pa ang Cristo na sabi ng isang huwad na mangangaral ay may nagbabautismo sila daw ang part 1 at ang panahon ni Jesus ay siya daw part 2. Nakakalungkot tinanggap naman sa mga moronic people o mga membro sa isang kultong ang may-ari ay isang sex lover.

Understanding the scripture will lead you to understand Christ and the significance of his teachings. Fact is, there's no such thing as Old and New Testament if we are dealing with history. We just simply organized it as Old and New because of Christ's teachings and Christian Era. We segregated the writings of prophets and it ended up til the writings of the Apostles and which was indeed Christ existed in The New Testament. But God is the same as yesterday and forever as what everyone knows. He is an unchangeable being. The only thing that changed was the time or dispensation of man and that laws and commandments should be in force in different period of time.

On the other hand, the Book of Mormon was the writings of prophets in a different land. It will be too dumb for you to control God whatever he wants. God loves each child that he has either in Jerusalem or a different country, and He provided means for their benefits and salvations. Nephi saw it in a vision how Christ was baptized and he knew how important is baptism since Christ himself was baptized by John the Baptist. And there's no other way for them to perform this ordinance through John the Baptist in a different land. So, Nephi provided a record for them to keep.

For a complete reference see 1 Nephi ch. 11. Below are the text in verses -

For it came to pass after I had desired to know the things that my father had seen, and believing that the Lord was able to make them known unto me, as I sat pondering in mine heart I was caught away in the Spirit of the Lord, yea, into an exceedingly high mountain, which I never had before seen, and upon which I never had before set my foot.
2 And the Spirit said unto me: Behold, what desirest thou?
3 And I said: I desire to behold the things which my father saw.
4 And the Spirit said unto me: Believest thou that thy father saw the tree of which he hath spoken?
5 And I said: Yea, thou knowest that I believe all the words of my father.
6 And when I had spoken these words, the Spirit cried with a loud voice, saying: Hosanna to the Lord, the most high God; for he is God over all the earth, yea, even above all. And blessed art thou, Nephi, because thou believest in the Son of the most high God; wherefore, thou shalt behold the things which thou hast desired.
7 And behold this thing shall be given unto thee for a sign, that after thou hast beheld the tree which bore the fruit which thy father tasted, thou shalt also behold a man descending out of heaven, and him shall ye witness; and after ye have witnessed him ye shall bear record that it is the Son of God.
8 And it came to pass that the Spirit said unto me: Look! And I looked and beheld a tree; and it was like unto the tree which my father had seen; and the beauty thereof was far beyond, yea, exceeding of all beauty; and the whiteness thereof did exceed the whiteness of the driven snow.
9 And it came to pass after I had seen the tree, I said unto the Spirit: I behold thou hast shown unto me the tree which is precious above all.
10 And he said unto me: What desirest thou?
11 And I said unto him: To know the interpretation thereof—for I spake unto him as a man speaketh; for I beheld that he was in the form of a man; yet nevertheless, I knew that it was the Spirit of the Lord; and he spake unto me as a man speaketh with another.
12 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look! And I looked as if to look upon him, and I saw him not; for he had gone from before my presence.
13 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the great city of Jerusalem, and also other cities. And I beheld the city of Nazareth; and in the city of Nazareth I beheld a virgin, and she was exceedingly fair and white.
14 And it came to pass that I saw the heavens open; and an angel came down and stood before me; and he said unto me: Nephi, what beholdest thou?
15 And I said unto him: A virgin, most beautiful and fair above all other virgins.
16 And he said unto me: Knowest thou the condescension of God?
17 And I said unto him: I know that he loveth his children; nevertheless, I do not know the meaning of all things.
18 And he said unto me: Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God, after the manner of the flesh.
19 And it came to pass that I beheld that she was carried away in the Spirit; and after she had been carried away in the Spirit for the space of a time the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
20 And I looked and beheld the virgin again, bearing a child in her arms.
21 And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea, even the Son of the Eternal Father! Knowest thou the meaning of the tree which thy father saw?
22 And I answered him, saying: Yea, it is the love of God, which sheddeth itself abroad in the hearts of the children of men; wherefore, it is the most desirable above all things.
23 And he spake unto me, saying: Yea, and the most joyous to the soul.
24 And after he had said these words, he said unto me: Look! And I looked, and I beheld the Son of God going forth among the children of men; and I saw many fall down at his feet and worship him.
25 And it came to pass that I beheld that the rod of iron, which my father had seen, was the word of God, which led to the fountain of living waters, or to the tree of life; which waters are a representation of the love of God; and I also beheld that the tree of life was a representation of the love of God.
26 And the angel said unto me again: Look and behold the condescension of God!
27 And I looked and beheld the Redeemer of the world, of whom my father had spoken; and I also beheld the prophet who should prepare the way before him. And the Lamb of God went forth and was baptized of him; and after he was baptized, I beheld the heavens open, and the Holy Ghost come down out of heaven and abide upon him in the form of a dove.
28 And I beheld that he went forth ministering unto the people, in power and great glory; and the multitudes were gathered together to hear him; and I beheld that they cast him out from among them.
29 And I also beheld twelve others following him. And it came to pass that they were carried away in the Spirit from before my face, and I saw them not.
30 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me again, saying: Look! And I looked, and I beheld the heavens open again, and I saw angels descending upon the children of men; and they did minister unto them.
31 And he spake unto me again, saying: Look! And I looked, and I beheld the Lamb of God going forth among the children of men. And I beheld multitudes of people who were sick, and who were afflicted with all manner of diseases, and with devils and unclean spirits; and the angel spake and showed all these things unto me. And they were healed by the power of the Lamb of God; and the devils and the unclean spirits were cast out.
32 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me again, saying: Look! And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the everlasting God was judged of the world; and I saw and bear record.
33 And I, Nephi, saw that he was lifted up upon the cross and slain for the sins of the world.
34 And after he was slain I saw the multitudes of the earth, that they were gathered together to fight against the apostles of the Lamb; for thus were the twelve called by the angel of the Lord.
35 And the multitude of the earth was gathered together; and I beheld that they were in a large and spacious building, like unto the building which my father saw. And the angel of the Lord spake unto me again, saying: Behold the world and the wisdom thereof; yea, behold the house of Israel hath gathered together to fight against the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
36 And it came to pass that I saw and bear record, that the great and spacious building was the pride of the world; and it fell, and the fall thereof was exceedingly great. And the angel of the Lord spake unto me again, saying: Thus shall be the destruction of all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, that shall fight against the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

So, technically. Nephi as their first Leader in the Promised land saw this vision through an Angel who ministers to him the things that will happen beyond their time. So, of course, he knew how important Baptism is to our salvation.

Job Bautista Funny Moment: Score's Zero - Part 1

Job Bautista response of my Post. See the previous blog post for detail (click here)

Okay so let's go to his response -

Jerry Nuñez Bustillo

(Quote from one of my words that he choose to pick-up an claim his victory not knowing the rest of the text. Actually it was a reference in Mosiah 7:27. See below in Quote)

{ because he said unto them that Christ was the God, the Father of all things, }

Answer :

(Responding it below)

The teaching of Lds cut that Jesus is the Father of all things ?

Let us examine cult defendee if Jesus the Father of all things ?

NKJV Bible. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28

[27]For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him, ” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.

[28]Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. Effects of Denying the Resurrection

Cult defender if Jesus was the Father of all things , why Jesus surrender all things to His Father ?

Say what? Christ became the father because he surrender all things? You are even asking a question. Was it the way you debunk? Seems like you misquotes Paul's words. Here's the INC doctrine about Christ. Christ doesn't exist in the beginning as INC doctrine say that they can't even stand on it. So the question, how come he has all things when he doesn't even exist to claim just one single thing that he has? Maybe you need to enhance that INC doctrine Job Baustista. You Fail Miserably, I could picture out your hate and that you need to have a life.

Score : Jerry got a Zero points

Look at this childish score of his own childish thought. What a loser? This guy seems to have a miserable life.

Funny how you made that score.
Did you always play that way?
How many kid that did you bullied with that?

Job got a 1 po0nt .

🤣🤣🤣. Too weak to score yourself like that. Zero.

Part 2 - Job Bautista and the Santa Cena Issue: Water, Wine or Cup?

Once again, an attack has been launched by an individual named Job Bautista, who holds antagonistic views towards the Latter-day Saints. He has posed a question concerning the sacrament instituted by the church, specifically questioning why water is used instead of wine. Let's discuss and explore this inquiry without delay. Please note that my comments will be denoted in colored text.

It wasn't the issue.
But yes there is a scripture
about that question of yours.

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. - John 19:34

May tanong tayo kay Jerry Nuñez Bustillo isa magiting na tagapagtanggol ni Joseph Smith, ayon sa kanya sa kanilang pagbabanal na Hapunan o Santa Cena ay iniinom din naman sila at kumakain.

The weekly Sacrament holds deep significance in our faith as we gather regularly to partake in this sacred ordinance. Rather than referring to it as "Santa Cena" or "Holy Supper," we maintain the simple and straightforward term of the Sacrament.

By partaking in the bread and water, we symbolically remember and honor the profound sacrifice of Jesus Christ and his atonement for humanity. It serves as a reminder of his love, compassion, and infinite mercy towards us.

Unlike the INC's yearly rituals, our faith encourages us to institute the Sacrament every week. This frequent observance allows us to continually deepen our connection with divinity and reinforce our commitment to live according to Christ's teachings.

It is important to note that our practice of the Sacrament differs from a typical "Hapunan" or "Supper" setting. While a supper typically takes place in the evening and centers around a larger meal, our Sacrament is conducted during our weekly worship service, regardless of time. The focus is primarily on the symbolic elements of bread and water, rather than indulging in a full meal.

Through the weekly Sacrament, we strive to emulate the example set by Jesus Christ and renew our commitment to follow his teachings. It serves as a unifying and sacred experience for members of our faith community, who come together in reverence and gratitude for the Savior's sacrifice.

Sa inyong paginom ba ng tubig meron bang nalalasing sa inyo sa tubig?

He is posing a question that is completely unrelated to the topic of the sacrament, and it appears to be lacking in depth or relevance. While it is true that we consume water during the sacrament, it is important to note that the purpose of drinking it is not to become intoxicated, as you seem to suggest from a biblical standpoint.

It is unlikely that support for your argument can be found if we were to further explore this matter. Therefore, it would be more productive to shift our focus and move on to a different subject that is more relevant and meaningful.

So for me, it such a senseless question.

Ayon pa sa tagapagtanggol ng kulto na ang simbolo ng ng dugo ni Panginoong Jesus ay ang kupeta at hindi ang laman ng kupeta na siyang ubas .

Certainly, here is a further addition to the response:

It's important to note that when discussing religious symbolism, particularly with regards to Christianity, interpretations can vary among individuals and different theological perspectives. While some may view the liquid inside the cup during religious rituals, such as the Eucharist, as symbolizing the blood of Christ, others might approach it more metaphorically or in a broader sense.

Moreover, when considering Christ's choice of words, it is reasonable to assume that he used language purposefully and meaningfully. In the context of the Last Supper, where Christ introduced the practice of sharing bread and wine with his disciples, his use of the term "cup" likely held significance and conveyed a particular intention.

However, it is important to acknowledge that my previous response may have not accurately captured your intended point. If there are specific aspects or details that you would like me to focus on, please let me know, and I will be happy to address them.

Basahin natin ang pahayag ni Apostol Pablo.

The following scriptures are being used, and I'll attempt to analyze their usage and understand how they were employed. I will highlight certain words and examine their context:

Below are the scriptures that he uses, so I will utilize them and assess his comprehension of their application. Let's examine the text and observe how it was articulated.

1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:20 Kaya't sa inyong pagtitipon, hindi Banal na Hapunan ng Panginoon ang kinakain ninyo.

There seems to be a discrepancy in the terminology used to refer to the biblical event commonly known as "Banal Na Hapunan" or the "Lord's Supper." It's worth noting that the original Greek word employed in Scripture is "κυριακὸν δεῖπνον" (kyriakon deipnon), which is translated as "Lord's Supper" or "the Supper of the Lord." Therefore, it appears that the more accurate translation would be "Lord's Supper" rather than "Holy Supper" as indicated in the given version of Scripture, "Banal Na Hapunan."

Συνερχομένων οὖν ὑμῶν ἐπὶ τὸ αὐτὸ οὐκ ἔστιν κυριακὸν δεῖπνον φαγεῖν·

The term "κυριακὸν δεῖπνον" (kyriakon deipnon) is significant in the context of Christian worship, specifically referring to the Lord's Supper or Eucharist. This phrase captures the essence of a sacred meal shared by believers in commemoration of Jesus Christ's Last Supper.

It is important to note that the usage of the term "κυριακὸν δεῖπνον" may vary in different translations or interpretations of the Greek text. While the original Greek manuscripts may not explicitly mention the Holy Supper, subsequent revisions and translations have included this concept within the broader understanding of the Lord's Supper.

However, it is worth mentioning that certain faith traditions, such as the INC (Iglesia Ni Cristo), may interpret or utilize this term inaccurately or differently from its original meaning. These variations in interpretation can arise due to theological or doctrinal differences among different religious groups.

Nevertheless, for the purpose of this discussion, we can set aside the issue of the INC's usage and delve into the broader significance of the Lord's Supper within the context of Christian worship. The Lord's Supper holds great importance as a symbolic representation of Jesus' sacrifice, emphasizing the unity of believers with Christ and with one another.

Rephrasing the original statement, it becomes clear that the Greek term "κυριακὸν δεῖπνον" conveys the concept of the Lord's Supper, although the explicit mention of the Holy Supper might be absent in earlier Greek texts. The INC's interpretation of this term can be disregarded for now, as it does not align with the intended focus of this post.

1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:21 Sapagkat ang bawat isa sa inyo'y nagmamadali sa pagkain ng kanyang baong pagkain, kaya't nagugutom ang iba at ang iba nama'y nalalasing.
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:22 Wala ba kayong sariling bahay upang doon kumain at uminom? O hinahamak ninyo ang iglesya ng Diyos at hinihiya ang mahihirap? Ano ang gagawin ko ngayon? Ipagmamalaki ko ba kayo dahil sa bagay na iyon? Hinding-hindi ko gagawin iyon!
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:23 Ito ang katuruang tinanggap ko sa Panginoon at ibinigay ko naman sa inyo: noong gabing siya'y ipagkanulo, ang Panginoong Jesus ay dumampot ng tinapay,
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:24 nagpasalamat at pinagpira-piraso iyon, at sinabi, “Ito ang aking katawan na inihahandog para sa inyo. Gawin ninyo ito bilang pag-aalaala sa akin.”
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:25 Matapos maghapunan, dumampot din siya ng kopa at sinabi, “Ang kopang ito ay ang bagong tipan ng Diyos na pinagtibay ng aking dugo. Tuwing iinumin ninyo ito, gawin ninyo bilang pag-aalaala sa akin.”
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:26 Sapagkat tuwing kakain kayo ng tinapay na ito at iinom sa kopang ito, ipinapahayag ninyo ang kamatayan ng Panginoon hanggang sa kanyang muling pagparito.
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:27 Ang sinumang kumakain ng tinapay at umiinom sa kopa ng Panginoon sa paraang di nararapat ay nagkakasala sa katawan at dugo ng Panginoon.
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:28 Kaya't dapat siyasatin ng tao ang kanyang sarili bago siya kumain ng tinapay at uminom sa kopa.
1 Mga Taga-Corinto 11:29 Sapagkat ang sinumang kumakain at umiinom nang hindi kinikilala ang kahalagahan ng katawan ng Panginoon ay kumakain at umiinom ng kahatulan laban sa kanyang sarili.

So far as your listed scripture found in 1 Corinthians 11:21-29 said everything about the Lord's Supper as a constant practice of the early saints, and nowhere it says grape or wine, rather they use the term "Cup", which generally used to fill any liquid substance. Is water not acceptable as a substance to fill the cup? Of course since we don't partake a literal blood of Christ, rather an emblems of his Sacrifice, moreover, nowhere you can ever find water was forbidden.

Certainly! It is important to consider the context and symbolism of the Lord's Supper when discussing the substance used to fill the cup. In the biblical accounts of the Last Supper, Jesus used wine as a representation of his blood that was shed for the forgiveness of sins.

However, it is worth noting that throughout history and in different cultural contexts, the substance used in the cup during the Lord's Supper has varied. While the use of wine is a common practice in many Christian traditions, there have been instances where water or other non-alcoholic beverages have been used as well.

The primary significance of the Lord's Supper lies in its symbolism rather than the specific substance used. The cup represents the blood of Christ and the act of partaking in it symbolizes the believers' identification with Jesus' sacrifice and their unity with one another as members of the body of Christ.

Therefore, as long as the symbolism and purpose of the Lord's Supper are upheld, there is no explicit scriptural prohibition against using water or any other suitable substance in filling the cup. The emphasis lies in the spiritual significance and reverence with which the sacrament is observed rather than the specific liquid used.

Ultimately, the choice of using wine, water, or any other beverage may depend on the traditions and beliefs of different Christian denominations or individuals. As long as the actions are done with respect and an understanding of the underlying symbolism, the substance used in the cup can be a matter of personal or communal preference.

For, behold, I say unto you, that it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory—remembering unto the Father my body which was laid down for you, and my blood which was shed for the remission of your sins. - Doctrine and Covenants 27:2

What kind of Argument
was that?
You're trying to bend it
and yet you fail because
of your stupidity.

For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. - 1 Corinthians 11:26

In Paul's letter to the Corinthians, he addresses the significance of the cup as a symbol in partaking of the blood of Christ. The cup, traditionally used for holding liquid, is not specifically designated to contain a particular substance. However, historical context suggests that wine was commonly utilized during that period as part of their customary practices.

It is important to understand that the essence of Paul's message goes beyond the physical nature of the liquid itself. He emphasizes the spiritual significance behind the act of drinking from the cup, highlighting the remembrance of Christ's sacrifice and the covenant it represents.

Throughout time, there have been additional instructions and interpretations regarding the observance of this sacred practice. These addendums serve to guide believers in the proper application of the symbolic cup, ensuring that the deeper meaning behind communion is preserved and understood.

As Christians, we are encouraged to approach the cup with reverence and sincerity, recognizing the powerful symbolism it holds. Whether the liquid within is wine or a suitable alternative, it is our duty to honor the intent of the ordinance and reflect on the profound act of love and redemption it represents.

Ultimately, the specifics of the cup's contents may differ depending on cultural or personal circumstances, but the core message it conveys remains constant: it stands as a poignant reminder of Christ's sacrifice and the eternal covenant we share as believers.

Tubig ba ang kanilang ininom na nakakalasing ?

You are questioning the basis of the claim that drinking wine in the cup made the people drunk. Firstly, there is no evidence to support the idea that they became intoxicated after drinking from the cup. There is no documentation indicating such an outcome. Secondly, the text does not specifically mention the use of the fruit of the vine during Christ's time. The passage refers to the cup, not explicitly mentioning the fruit or the wine.

Lucas 22:18 Sinasabi ko sa inyo, mula ngayo'y hindi na ako iinom nitong KATAS NG UBAS hangga't hindi dumarating ang kaharian ng Diyos.”
Lucas 22:19 Dumampot din siya ng tinapay, at matapos magpasalamat sa Diyos ay kanyang pinaghati-hati iyon at ibinigay sa kanila. Sabi niya, “Ito ang aking katawan na inihahandog para sa inyo. Gawin ninyo ito bilang pag-alaala sa akin.”
Lucas 22:20 Gayundin naman, dinampot niya ang kopa pagkatapos maghapunan at sinabi, “Ang kopang ito ang bagong tipan ng Diyos na pinagtibay ng aking dugo. Ang aking dugo ay mabubuhos alang-alang sa inyo.

Okay so... What did Christ say? He wouldn't drink of the fruit of the vine. And how do you observe that? And on verse 20 he used the term Cup, not wine. Does this have something to do with your ignorance?

You're trying to look at the word game that you missed a few previous words. Nice one on your cherry-picking idea, and yet you fail.

So here's the thing. Christ instituted the sacrament to them in remembrance of him and his sacrifice for us. The cup he will drink is not a cup that was selected by your ministers but rather a better cup that the father gave to him -

... the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? - John 18:11

The cup is simply the sacrifice he will perform. It is not sweet and in fact, the Book of Mormon clarified Christ words -

And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning. - 3 Nephi 11:11

Your interpretation of symbolism and the Last Supper is utterly absurd, Job Bautista. It makes no sense for Christ and the apostles to celebrate and indulge in drunkenness if it all represents his impending death. And as for you, do you even know what it's like to purchase wine? Or do you just get it from the supermarket's beverage section? Clearly, you have no clue about obtaining fruit directly from the vine.

Fruit of the Vine or the Bottle?
Which one do you observe Job Bautista?

Sa halip na KATAS NG UBAS ang kanilang ininom ng kulto ni Joseph Smith naghaka-haka sila na tubig nalang ang ginamit nila at ito raw ay symbolical ng dugo ni Panginoong Jesucristo sa pagtubos ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Gawa 20:28 Lamsa

Seriously, was that the very
purpose of his death?
And when did I say
it was about the hour?

"God purchase his own Blood" 😁. You Can not support that, you keep using that special version of yours. Anyway, as we move on. To support that idea Job. The Prophet received revelation on why the Grapes were replaced by water. But actually, it was never a big deal since before this revelation, the saints use wine in administering the sacrament. In fact, it was even in the Book of Mormon and in Doctrine and Covenants about the sacramental prayer in which wine was used. Here's the text to let you know -

O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee, in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this wine to the souls of all those who drink of it, that they may do it in remembrance of the blood of thy Son, which was shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen. - Moroni 5:2, D&C 20:

There are reasons why some instructions are given after, and for that, let's try to put some of it here -

For, behold, I say unto you, that it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory—remembering unto the Father my body which was laid down for you, and my blood which was shed for the remission of your sins.
3 Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, that you shall not purchase wine neither strong drink of your enemies;
4 Wherefore, you shall partake of none except it is made new among you; yea, in this my Father’s kingdom which shall be built up on the earth.
5 Behold, this is wisdom in me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim;
- Doctrine and Covenants 27:2-5

It was instructed to use wine out of their own make, meaning from the plants grown in their own farm or vineyard. Which basically means fruit directly of the vine, which I believe that you do not observe. So, who was duped now?

And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make - D&C 89:6

Question to you Job Bautista. Do you make your own grape juice as the fruit of the vine or just simply purchase it in a supermarket? What did the scripture say? You can justify it whatever you want, but you can't support it biblically.

Kaya sila hindi naman talaga Iglesia ni Cristo, kaya sila naghaka haka na lamang sa kanilang Banal na hapunan. Narito ang kanilang ginawa.

And there goes that Banal na Hapunan (Holy Supper) thing. Ok, so when do you people celebrate that? Did you receive revelation to perform it on the exact date when Christ held it? Does any INC has that record on when did Christ perform it or does the scripture says often?

For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. - 1 Corinthians 11:26

Ok, so when do you perform that Holy Supper of INC? March? Where's your revelation about it? Or was it another copycat movement of INC? So where did you steal that ideology?

Oh really?
Thanks for your Opinion.

On one occasion, Ellen G. White made some comments about the Lord's Supper and the Passover that was debated in its observance. Here are part of it -

"As we had before us the emblems of our dying Lord, and were about to commemorate His sufferings, this brother arose and said that he had no faith in what we were about to do; that the Lord's supper was a continuation of the Passover, and should be partaken of but once a year.
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The leaders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, including Ellen G. White, since that time have consistently maintained that the observance of the Lord's Supper is not a continuation of the Passover of ancient times, and that partaking of the communion service is not to be restricted to Passover time and thus held but once a year.

(Click here to learn more... )

If Passover was to be observed in between March and early April, does this mean this INC didn't know about the importance of Lord's Supper rather a part of the Jewish Feast or Tradition? This leads us that this kind of church was not guided by revelations at all.

He made a personal attack to
Crisandra Sambrano who just want
to speak up about her views.

And by this time, Job Bautista attacks one of the members and made it too personal. Pasted it in his wall and made such an attempt to shame someone. Is this what the INC claimed the church of God by stumping on someone's faith? Let's examine his attacked and Ad Feminam.

Pagbubunyag sa maling aral sa kulto ni Joseph Smith .

Crisandra Sambrano Villanueva
Pahayag niya ss :

At tama na nagpakita sa akin ang Panginoon sa vision ko, at tubig ang ginamit nyang symbol para sa message na sinabi nya sa akin, yan ay personal na message nya sa akin dahil ang vision ko ay para lang sa akin.

Ito ang pahayag ni Crisandra Sambrano Villanueva, isang magiting na tagapagtanggol sa aral ni Joseph Smith . Isa yata itong propetae ?

This was originally a chat message from Crisanda to Job Bautista as her personal Opinion of Job Bautista's ideology. Be he took it to a different level. He copied the text and post it on his wall humiliating the person. Okay, so was this all about Christianity Job Bautista? Is this part of your doctrinal gimmick? If you are a follower of Christ, this is not supposed to be an attitude that you would show. This proves how arrogant you people are and an idiot.

A picture grab
by Job Bautista for criticism.

Note to the Readers: Since Job Baustista is too arrogant in keeping a healthy discussion, but rather pointing out some of his stupid word gameplay.

Is this all you got?
Do you still have
anything to stand on?
Or just want it to shift
into a personal thing?
So, I guess we're all clear
that you can't keep it up.

He thinks the typos are intentional so I'm making some word corrections and admitting my typo error, since I did not make some proofread while doing this blog, so I give my credit to Job Baustista for his Arrogant wordplay.

Oh, really? So, What's the big deal
if I misspelled it. What's your point?

Thanks, Job Bautista, below are some of our conversations and his senseless response. -

Say what?
By just simply understanding
the text you tend to ignore
the fact that you INCult
misunderstood the
Concept of Lord's Supper?

Look at that?
So, How many INC Minions
are still childish nowadays?
Yeah, this guy is always
in a wordplay

And it seems like your
running out of Criticism.
Seems like you can't
keep up the issue.
Good try on your running.

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