He was an immoral man with delusions of grandeur - by Sandra Smith Franklin

Seriously? So, every Christian, as they claim to be grow up in this kind of mindset? What kind of religious bigotry was ever taught in the Christ World today?

So here's my question -
  • How can you conclude Josephs Motives without knowing how Joseph Smith lived during his time?
  • How can someone easily judge someone just because of their different cultural standards vs the Latter?

If I'm not a Christian and you tell me this kind of Conclusion, seems like a joke to me. Christian World should be matured enought to use Christlike emotions rather than making themselves a clown in the context.
No comments:

Refrain from answering with ChatGPT - by JM Janice Barlow



JM Janice Barlow is asking everyone not to make a response in ChatGPT, which I agree with, as information such as in ChatGPT might not be accurate to the actual doctrine.

Well, yeah, sounds fair since we all need to be more precise in our criticisms and doctrinal Study if we really know and understand what has been taught. Yet, I don't know which part you are talking about and who made a commentary. It may be safe to address it or post a link so we can understand and know which part of the comment might be off-topic. So, yeah, granting you nail something on it. Let's go on to your other post.

While on her wall -
 
Now what do we have here? So, tell me if this wasn't AI-generated. And tell us something if you know the context of the scriptures, so we can clearly understand that this has something to do with Mormonism and its un-Christian teaching? Can you?
No comments:

PREPARING PROSPECTIVE ELDERS TO FAITHFULLY FULFILL THEIR PRIESTHOOD RESPONSIBILITIES - Philippines Area

Background
The Philippines Area has a total of 189,511 Prospective Elders. Between January 1 and June 30, 2021, 1,294 (0.7%) brethren received the Melchizedek Priesthood and were ordained to the office of Elder. The Area Presidency has set a goal of 5,000 ordinations per year.

The Standard of Excellence (SOE) for stakes and districts:
  • 25 Ordinations per Stake every conference
  • 10 Ordinations per District every conference
Of course, goals for stakes and districts will be set by the leaders.

Current Trend for the Area
  • 2% of the total Prospective Elders are attending
  • 0.7% of them were ordained during the first half of 2021
The coordinating council statistics will be sent to Area Seventy responsible for each coordinating council.

Suggested Plan
High Councilors can prayerfully choose two names from the stake/district prospective elders list to minister to over the next few months with a goal for them to be ordained at the next stake/district conference. After they are ordained, prayerfully select two more names and repeat the process.

Scope
Prepare each Prospective Elder in the stake/district to receive the Melchizedek Priesthood by:
  1. Teaching three lessons to Prospective Elders prior to receiving the Melchizedek Priesthood and ordination to the office of Elder (45 minutes each)
  2. Teaching two lessons after receiving the Melchizedek Priesthood and ordination to the office of Elder (45 minutes each)
Definition of a Prospective Elder (General Handbook, 8.4)
A prospective elder is a male Church member who has not received the Melchizedek Priesthood and (1) is age 19 or older or (2) is younger than age 19 and married.

Guiding Principles (General Handbook, 8.4)

Helping prospective elders prepare to receive the Melchizedek Priesthood is one of the quorum presidency’s highest priorities. The presidency gives prospective elders opportunities to serve and share their strengths. Dedicated ministering brothers should be assigned to prospective elders.
  • The quorum presidency and ministering brothers teach prospective elders about:
  • The oath and covenant of the priesthood (see Doctrine and Covenants 84:33–44).
  • The duties of an elder, including the duty to minister (see Doctrine and Covenants 20:38– 45; 42:44; 107:11–12). Prospective elders who are teachers or priests can serve as ministering brothers.
  • The purposes of priesthood ordinances and blessings and how to perform them (see chapter 18).
  • How men and women work together to accomplish God’s work.
For information about these topics, see “Melchizedek Priesthood,” “Priesthood,” and “Women in the Church” (Gospel Topics, topics.ChurchofJesusChrist.org).

As soon as the bishop and stake president determine that a prospective elder is prepared and worthy, he may be ordained an elder in the Melchizedek Priesthood at the next stake/district conference or at the annual Stake General Priesthood Meeting.
 
Dress
President Dallin H. Oaks taught, “How we dress is an important indicator of our attitude and preparation for any activity in which we will engage…Our manner of dress indicates the degree to which we understand and honor the ordinance in which we will participate.”

Roles of Parents and Leaders
Parents, Church leaders, and others help individuals prepare to make covenants as they receive the ordinances of the gospel. They ensure that the person understands the covenants he or she will make. After a person makes a covenant, they help him or her keep it. (General Handbook 3.5.1 also see Mosiah 18:8-11, 23-26)

Frequency
This instruction may occur individually or in a class held outside of regular Sunday meetings (GH 8.4). These classes (1-3 lessons) maybe held prior to the stake/district conference and lesson 4 & 5 during the two weeks after the conference.


PROPOSED LESSONS FOR PROSPECTIVE ELDERS

Prior to Receiving the Melchizedek Priesthood and Ordination to Office of Elder.
(If married, the prospective elder’s wife (member or nonmember) may be invited to join him in any of these lessons, especially lessons 4&5).

  • Lesson 1: Priesthood Principles

PURPOSE: To increase understanding of the Priesthood and how it helps accomplish His work “to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man” (Moses 1:39).

  • Lesson 2: The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood

PURPOSE: To gain a deeper understanding of the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood pursuant to one’s sacred responsibilities within an eternal home with spouse and children and in Church.

  • Lesson 3: Duties of An Elder

PURPOSE: To increase understanding of the concept of PRIESTHOOD DUTY, and how it applies to magnifying duties associated with the office of Elder.

After Receiving the Melchizedek Priesthood and Ordination to Office of Elder. Under the direction of the stake presidency, a high councilor can be assigned to team teach these lessons with the Elders Quorum presidency (see GH 6.5.1 on the roles of the HC).

  • Lesson 4: The Purposes of Priesthood Ordinances and Blessings and How to Perform Them (GH 18.0)

PURPOSE: To increase understanding of the priesthood ordinances and blessings, and how to perform them in the Lord’s way.

  • Lesson 5: How Men and Women Work Together to Accomplish God’s Work

PURPOSE: To gain a better understanding of how men and women in the Church work together to accomplish God’s work of salvation and exaltation.




Lesson 1: Priesthood Principles

“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only organization on earth with priesthood authority. The Prophet Joseph Smith received the Aaronic Priesthood and its keys from John the Baptist (see Doctrine and Covenants 13:1). He received the Melchizedek Priesthood and its keys from the Apostles Peter, James, and John (see Doctrine and Covenants 27:12–13).” (See GH 3.1)

PURPOSE To increase understanding of the Priesthood and how it helps accomplish His work “to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man” (Moses 1:39).

 PREPARE TO LEARN (one week before the discussion)

Before presenting this lesson, invite each prospective elder to study and ponder the following references:
  • Moses 1:39
  • “The priesthood is the authority and power of God. It has always existed and will continue to exist without end (see Alma 13:7–8; Doctrine and Covenants 84:17–18).” (See GH 3.0)
  • Priesthood Principles (GH 3.0)
  • Restoration of the Priesthood (GH 3.1)
  • Blessings of the Priesthood (GH 3.2)
  • Melchizedek Priesthood (GH 3.3.1)
  • Priesthood Authority (GH 3.4)
  • Priesthood Power (GH 3.5)
  • Priesthood and the Home (GH 3.6)
INTERACT TO EDIFY (DISCUSSIONS)
  • Priesthood Principles (GH 3.0)
  • Restoration of the Priesthood (GH 3.1)
  • Blessings of the Priesthood (GH 3.2)
  • Melchizedek Priesthood (GH 3.3.1)
  • Priesthood Authority (GH 3.4)
    • Priesthood Line of Authority (D&C 84:6-18)
    • Why is it important that we can trace priesthood authority in the Church today back to the authority of Jesus Christ?
    • Inform the prospective elder that you will assist him in obtaining his priesthood line of authority
  • Priesthood Power (GH 3.5)
  • Priesthood and the Home (GH 3.6)
INVITATIONS TO ACT
  • What will you do to increase your understanding on the principles and doctrine of the Priesthood?
  • What commitments will you make to enjoy the blessings of the priesthood in your life and in your home?
FOLLOW UP
Prior to presenting the next lesson, make an appropriate follow up during the week to find out how the prospective elder is progressing with his commitments, answer questions, and help him overcome challenges. Focus on the following commitments:
  • What will you do to increase your understanding on the principles and doctrine of the Priesthood?
  • What commitments will you make to enjoy the blessings of the priesthood in your life and in your home?


Lesson 2: The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood

“The rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and . . . the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness” (D&C 121:36).

PURPOSE To gain a deeper understanding of how the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood defines one’s sacred responsibilities within an eternal home and in Church.

PREPARE TO LEARN (one week before the discussion)

Before presenting this lesson, invite each prospective elder to study and ponder the following references:
INTERACT TO EDIFY (DISCUSSIONS)
  • What is an oath? What is a covenant?
    1. Elder L. Tom Perry on the Priesthood, Part One: The Oath and Covenant - Elder Perry on the Priesthood, Part One: The Oath and Covenant - Bing video
    2. Elder Russell M. Nelson Talks About Covenants https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2011-11-0070-elder-nelson-talks- about-covenants?lang=eng
  • What is the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood? Doctrine and Covenants 84:33-44
  • The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood
    We receive the holy priesthood by an “oath and covenant.” This means that Heavenly Father gives us His oath (guarantee) that we can have the power and blessings of the priesthood if we covenant (promise) with Him to do certain things. “Therefore, all those who receive the priesthood, receive this oath and covenant of [the] Father, which he cannot break, neither can it be moved” (D&C 84:40). (See Duties and Blessings of the Priesthood: Basic Manual for Priesthood Holders, Part B, Lesson 1.)

    President Marion G. Romney explained the meaning of a covenant: “A covenant is a contract, and a contract is an agreement between two or more [people]. If I should enter into a covenant with you, I would promise you something in consideration for you promising me something. If I entered into agreement with you to pay you a certain sum of money for an automobile, and you promised to give me the automobile for that sum of money, that would be a covenant. Now, in a covenant of the priesthood, we promise the Lord, and He promises us something in return for what we do give Him” (in Conference Report, Korea Area Conference 1975, 36).

    Our Promises to the Lord
    Read Doctrine and Covenants 84:33.
    “To magnify our callings is to do our best in accepting and carrying out all our priesthood duties so we can enlarge the Lord’s kingdom on earth. When we receive the priesthood, we also promise to be faithful and keep all the commandments.” (See Duties and Blessings of the Priesthood: Basic Manual for Priesthood Holders, Part B, Lesson 1.)

    “A half-hearted commitment to our covenants will not guarantee us anything.” – Elder Dale G. Renlund https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general- conference/2019/10/16renlund?lang=eng

    The Lord’s Promises to Us
    Read Doctrine and Covenants 84:33–38.
    “The Lord promises that if we keep our part of the covenant, we will be “sanctified by the Spirit unto the renewing of [our] bodies” (D&C 84:33). We can expect to be strengthened in body and spirit as we fulfill our callings.

    We may also “become the sons of Moses and of Aaron” (D&C 84:34). The sons of Moses and Aaron administered the ordinances of salvation to the children of Israel. We have the same privilege of administering these sacred ordinances through the priesthood today.
    The Lord promises that we will become “the seed of Abraham” (D&C 84:34). In other words, we may receive the blessings promised to Abraham and his seed.

    Read Abraham 2:8–11.
    God covenanted with Abraham and his seed that through them all the nations of the earth would be blessed with the gospel. It is through the power and authority exercised by faithful priesthood bearers that these blessings are given to the world.

    The Lord also promises that faithful priesthood holders will “become … the elect of God” (D&C 84:34). This means that we priesthood bearers who magnify our callings and enter into all of the sacred saving ordinances of the priesthood will be given the fulness of the Father’s kingdom.
    Then the Lord says, “All that my Father hath shall be given unto [them]” (D&C 84:38).

    President Spencer W. Kimball explained: “Have you ever stopped to [count] the blessings, the powers that the Lord has? All power, all influence, all strength will be yours, and this is according to the oath and covenant of the holy priesthood which you bear” (in Conference Report, Buenos Aires Area Conference 1975, 51).” (See Duties and Blessings of the Priesthood: Basic Manual for Priesthood Holders, Part B, Lesson 1.)
INVITATIONS TO ACT
  • What will you do to live the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood every day?
  • What will you do to help the other members of the Elders Quorum to live the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood?
FOLLOW UP
Prior to presenting the next lesson, make an appropriate follow-up during the week to find out how the prospective elder is progressing with his commitments, answer questions, and help him overcome challenges. Focus on the following commitments:
  • What will you do to live the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood every day?
  • What will you do to help the other members of the Elders Quorum to live the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood?

Lesson 3: Duties of An Elder

“Only an elder! Only the office which enables a man to enter the new and everlasting covenant of marriage and to have his wife and children bound to him with an everlasting tie; only the office which prepares a man to be a natural patriarch to his posterity and to hold dominion in the house of Israel forever; only the office required for the receipt of the fullness of the blessings in the house of the Lord; only the office which opens the door to eternal exaltation in the highest heaven of the celestial world, where man becomes as God is. – Elder Bruce R. McConkie, from an address delivered at the Regional Representatives seminar, October 3, 1974.

“Brethren, let us learn our duty. Let us, in the performance of our duty, follow in the footsteps of the Master.” – President Thomas S. Monson


PURPOSE To increase understanding of the concept of PRIESTHOOD DUTY, and how it applies to magnifying duties associated with the office of Elder.

PREPARE TO LEARN (one week before the discussion)

Before presenting this lesson, invite each prospective elder to study and ponder the following references:
  • “The power and authority of the higher, or Melchizedek Priesthood, is to hold the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church” (D&C 107:18).
  • He has given us His priesthood so that, by performing our duties, we can help those we serve progress toward eternal life. This is especially true for those of us who hold the Melchizedek Priesthood because this priesthood holds “the keys of all the spiritual blessings of the church” (D&C 107:18). (Duties and Blessings of the Priesthood: Basic Manual for Priesthood Holders, Part A, Lesson 9)
  • Doctrine and Covenants 107
  • Doctrine and Covenants 20
INTERACT TO EDIFY (DISCUSSIONS)
  • The Meaning of Duty
  • “Wherefore, now let every man learn his duty, and to act in the office in which he is appointed, in all diligence. (Doctrine and Covenants 107:99-100)
    1. One cannot act on something they do not know and understand.
    2. It is our responsibility to “know more perfectly concerning their duty.” (D&C 105:10)
  • It is not enough to know my duties; I need to act on them
“Every member of the Church—every man, woman, and child—is faced with an obligation to fulfill his duty. Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin (“Let Every Man Learn His Duty,” Ensign, Nov. 1980, 70).

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1980/10/let-every-man- learn-his- duty?lang=eng#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWherefore%2C%20now%20let%20every%20ma n,107%3A99%E2%80%93100.)
  • What are the duties of Elders?
Doctrine and Covenants 20:38-45; 42:44; 107:11-12
  • Responsibilities of Ministering Sisters and Brothers (GH 21.1)
    Ministering sisters and brothers represent the Lord. They also help members feel the love and support of the bishop and Relief Society or quorum leaders. They are to “watch over” Church members and “be with and strengthen them” (Doctrine and Covenants 20:53).
  • Ministering sisters and brothers have the following responsibilities for the individuals and families assigned to them:
    • Help them strengthen their faith in Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ.
    • Help them prepare to make and keep sacred covenants with God as they receive ordinances. As needed, help parents prepare their children to receive ordinances and keep covenants.
    • Discern needs and provide Christlike love, caring, and service. Offer help and comfort in times of spiritual or temporal need. Discuss needs during ministering interviews and at other times.
    • Help them become spiritually and temporally self-reliant.
  • For more about the responsibilities of ministering sisters and brothers, see James 1:27, Mosiah 23:18, and Doctrine and Covenants 20:47, 59.
  • Purpose of Elders Quorum
    Each elder is part of an organized group of priesthood holders called an elders quorum. Members of the elders quorum work together to help accomplish the work of salvation and exaltation. They serve others, fulfill priesthood duties, build unity, and learn and live doctrine. (GH 8.1.1)
INVITATIONS TO ACT
  • What will you do to deepen your understanding of the duties as an Elder?
  • What preparations will you make to fulfill your duties as an Elder?
  • How will you fulfil your duties as an Elder?
FOLLOW UP
Prior to presenting the next lesson, make an appropriate follow up during the week to find out how the prospective elder is progressing with his commitments, answer questions, and help him overcome challenges. Focus on the following commitments:
  • What will you do to deepen your understanding of the duties as an Elder?
  • What preparations will you make to fulfill your duties as an Elder?
  • How will you fulfil your duties as an Elder?
 

Lesson 4: The Purposes of Priesthood Ordinances and Blessings and How to Perform Them (GH.18)

“Ordinances and blessings are sacred acts performed by the authority of the priesthood and in the name of Jesus Christ. As priesthood holders perform ordinances and blessings, they follow the Savior’s example of blessing others. Priesthood ordinances and blessings provide access to God’s power (see Doctrine and Covenants 84:20).”

PURPOSE To increase understanding of the priesthood ordinances and blessings, and how to perform them in the Lord’s way.
 
PREPARE TO LEARN (one week before the discussion)

Before presenting this lesson, invite each prospective elder to study and ponder the following references:
INTERACT TO EDIFY (DISCUSSIONS)

Discuss, provide a demonstration, and allow the prospective elder to practice how to properly give a Priesthood blessing for the sick. Invite a long-time Priesthood holder to share an experience giving a blessing or administering to the sick and to explain how it is properly done.
INVITATIONS TO ACT
  • What will you do to be worthy to participate in an ordinance or a blessing?
  • How will you better prepare to participate in an ordinance or a blessing?
FOLLOW UP
Prior to presenting the next lesson, make an appropriate follow up during the week to find out how the prospective elder is progressing with his commitments, answer questions, and help him overcome challenges. Focus on the following commitments:

Lesson 5: How Men and Women Work Together to Accomplish God’s Work

“The most effective way to fulfill our divine potential is to work together, blessed by the power and authority of the priesthood.” President Jean B. Bingham, Relief Society General President, April 2021

PURPOSE To gain a better understanding of how men and women in the Church work together to accomplish God’s work of salvation and exaltation.
 
PREPARE TO LEARN (one week before the discussion)

Before presenting this lesson, invite each prospective elder to study and ponder the following references:
INTERACT TO EDIFY (DISCUSSIONS)
  • The Work of Salvation and Exaltation (GH 1.2). We come unto Christ and assist in God’s work by:
    • Living the gospel of Jesus Christ.
    • Caring for those in need.
    • Inviting all to receive the gospel.
    • Uniting families for eternity.
  • Who do I serve with?
    “United in Accomplishing God’s Work,” President Jean B. Bingham, Relief Society General President, April 2020 General Conference https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general- conference/2020/04/34bingham?lang=eng
  • Women Participate in the Work of the Priesthood
    “In our Heavenly Father’s great priesthood-endowed plan, men have the unique responsibility to administer the priesthood, but they are not the priesthood. Men and women have different but equally valued roles. Just as a woman cannot conceive a child without a man, so a man cannot fully exercise the power of the priesthood to establish an eternal family without a woman. In other words, in the eternal perspective, both the procreative power and the priesthood power are shared by husband and wife” - President M. Russell Ballard (“This Is My Work and My Glory,” April 2013 General Conference). https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2013/04/this-is-my-work- and-glory?lang=eng
  • The rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness (D&C 121:36)
Unitedly working with women in the magnifying of our Priesthood starts in the home. As Priesthood holders, we can exercise the counsel outlined in D&C 121:41 and 42 by treating our wives with “gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned; By kindness…”

INVITATIONS TO ACT
  • Under the direction of those who hold the keys, how will you work together with women in accomplishing God’s work?
  • How can my priesthood be a blessing to the daughters of God in my family and in the Church?
  • What changes in my life needs to happen in order to live the principles of righteousness in the home?
FOLLOW UP
Make an appropriate follow-up during the week to find out how the prospective elder is progressing with his commitments, answer questions, and help him overcome challenges. Focus on the following commitments:
  • Under the direction of those who hold the keys, how will you work together with women in accomplishing God’s work?
  • How can my priesthood be a blessing to the daughters of God in my family and in the Church?
  • What changes in my life needs to happen to live more fully the principles of righteousness in the home?
No comments:

According to apostle Paul the Bible or the holy scriptures is enough unto salvation - Jose Rodelio Retome Rata



Now here we go again on Jose Rodelio Retome Rata's personal ideology of taking out of context. Let's check out some of his personal studies and see if we can find something new. By the way, this is the same argument that has been debunked over and over, and Jose Rodelio Retome Rata still thinks that this is unanswered. Check out some of it in the links below -

The Book of Mormon
As part of the Restoration of the gospel, God brought forth the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. By the power of God, Joseph Smith translated this book from an ancient record written on gold plates. The Book of Mormon is “a record of God’s dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains the fulness of the everlasting gospel” (introduction to the Book of Mormon).
The Book of Mormon is a powerful witness of Jesus Christ. It helps us understand His teachings, including those in the Bible.
The Book of Mormon is convincing evidence of the Restoration of the gospel through Joseph Smith. You can know for yourself that the Book of Mormon is true. To gain this knowledge, you must read it, ponder its message, and desire to know if it is true. You must ask Heavenly Father to confirm that it is His word. As you do so, He will reveal to you through the Holy Ghost that it is true.
As you come to know that the Book of Mormon is true, you will also come to know by the Holy Ghost that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, that the gospel of Jesus Christ was restored through him, and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a prophet and apostles today.

Actually, this is just another copy-paste of his program from https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-restoration/the-book-of-mormon. I don't know why Jose Rodelio Retome Rata loves copy-pasting a text that doen't even part of his criticisms. He thinks it might be worth but it seems boring to me.

According to this teaching of LDS church, the Book of Mormon is the restoration of the gospel through Joseph Smith.
A witness of Jesus Christ.
Let me see if this is true.
Let consult the Bible if there is a missing piece.

Okay, go ahead. Let's see if you know the context of your Bible.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 - King James Version
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
According to apostle Paul the Bible or the holy scriptures is enough unto salvation through faith which is in Christ.

Wrong! Again, a thousand times. Paul is not quoting the entire Bible to Timothy. Paul is encouraging Timothy to continue reading, as it might lead him to understand salvation in Christ. The Scripture Paul refers to is none other than the Tanakh that comprises Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim. These are the primary scriptures during Paul's and the apostles' time. There is no such thing as the Bible at that time yet, which composes of Hebrew Old Testament and the Greek New Testament. You simply don't know the History and Context of the Scripture. This simply shows you don't study the scripture well and take it too lightly. And again, this was already debunked a couple of times already -
The Bible is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
The Bible can make the man of God to be perfect, thoroughly furnished or equipped unto all good works.
So, the Bible is absolutely complete no need of their said restored gospel because all the man need for salvation is all written in the Bible.
The man of God thoroughly furnished or equipped of all good works. The good works are the commandments of God.

Where in the world does it say it's the Generic Bible of our times? And where in the world does it say it is complete? Tell me, where in the world did you get that idea, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata?

Romans 7:12 - King James Version
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Therefore, the book of Mormon is not the restored gospel but rather a twisted gospel.

How did you come to a conclusion using Roman 7:12 that simply says about Paul's understanding of the law and why it was to be implemented, this has nothing to do with the other scripture aside from the bible. The law refers to the simple saying about the moral standards as if it would help us avoid or understand the consequences of sin (read verses 7-12). This has nothing to do with the holy scripture in General. So, this doesn't make any sense.

Galatians 1:6-9 - King James Version
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

And here we go again on this example that youd been slapped on your face over and over. The context of Galatians was all about the traditions of the Judaisers that they wanted the Gentile converts to abide by the traditions of the Jews, so they tried to mix up the Jewish Traditions or Laws with the teachings of the Gospel, in which Paul says it is supposed to be done away with after Christ ended the Law. Haven't you read the same article that slap you face regarding this issue? here let me help you -
So again, you fail everyone in your study of scriptures and some historical background of Paul's epistle to Timothy, to Romans, and to the Galatians. But it's okay as long as you have learned a new thing right, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata?
No comments:

Why is Christ (He) a seed of Abraham? - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata

Matthew 22:43-45 KJV
43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

This Question has already been asked by Christ, and here you are, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, thinking it can't be answered. This clearly proves you're too weak in scriptural exegesis and that you didn't take scripture seriously. So let's answer your question to help you out.




So, why would he come as a mortal and leave his glory to his father? Simple, the end of the laws and to perform the atonement, and some other reason, such as to establish his Kingdom here on earth. This was actually a pure and simple doctrine that your supposed PASUGO Magazine should consider to include since your PASUGO taught the pure doctrine of Christ, but I guess you haven't heard and learn that in your INC scripture study? Do you even think Christ was actually a mere human just because he was born to a human? seriously? Your God doesn't have the power to do that?

Here are some other biblical reasons why Christ must be born in the meridian of time to fulfil the work of God. Check it below, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.

To Truly Represent Humanity
Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

To Be the Son of David
2 Samuel 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;


To Obey Where Adam Failed
Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

To Die and Save us from Sin
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

To Be a High Priest yet Sympathetic
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
No comments:

Games Playlist

Click anywhere to enable sound. Sometime the video repeats, just click next if you don't need to watch it again

No comments:

According to the teaching of MORMON-LDS church the other sheep of Christ is not talking about any church - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata


This was actually presented long ago, and this Jose Rodelio Retome Rata didn't pay close attention to the former discussion on this topic. He simply wants his opinion to be heard and bigotry. This poor case study of Jose Rodelio Retome Rata fails him miserably in Christ's words and exegesis. Check out the link at - https://bustillo-family.blogspot.com/2025/11/fail-aesegesis-john-1016.html.

Now, let's get back to the main issue

John 10:16 - King James Version
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
According to the teaching of MORMON-LDS church the other sheep of Christ is not talking about any church.

Yes, it's true. Christ is not talking about the other church, but rather a group of believers who know him and worship him as the Messiah or the Son of God who will redeem his people. Why would you question that as if Christ knew some other churches existed at that time, like the church in the Philippines? So, what's your main point, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata?

Let consult the Bible.
According to John 10:16 the other sheep of Christ will become one FLOCK.

So go ahead and see if you can find some other church aside from that church that Christ built, and don't forget to back it up with your church's historical background and how the Philippine Prophet was called on this commission. Sure, go ahead.
 
John 10:16 - King James Version
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
The FLOCK is none other than the Church of the Lord or the Church of Christ.

Ok, so where's your proof? How can you even convince us that it was all about the Philippines Church of Christ? Where's the authority given to your so-called messenger or Prophet of God that he was called to establish his kingdom in the Philippines? Do you have it?

Acts 20:28 - American Standard Version
28 Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.
So, it is clear that the other sheep of Christ is talking about the church.

And what does this have to do with the topic? How did Paul's word to the Ephesians have to do with Christ's words to his other Sheep that needed his presence? See where you got your scrambled doctrine that doesn't even add up, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? It seems like you like to link up irrelevant stories and mark them up as a doctrine. Seriously? Was it the way you studied your Bible, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata?

The prophet of the MORMON-LDS church was really a false prophet.
1 John 4:1 - King James Version
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Wrong again, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata! The scriptural content that you are linking to that doesn't even make any sense has nothing to do with "how to know true or false Prophets". This seems like every scripture quote has to do with the LDS prophet, while you can't even provide a supporting statement. And seriously, how do you study the scriptures? Do you even have a bible study or something? This simply shows that you don't know the context of the scriptures you're referring to, rather cherry-pick some and give a little tricky ideology on your INC doctrine, which sounds totally idiotic. At this point, you still fail to understand your scripture.

Thank you, and have a nice day
- Jerry N. Bustillo
No comments:

The Book of Mormon is one example of the Perverted Gospel that Apostle Paul attested. - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata



Now Let check out some new study from our indigenous friend Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. And see what new lesson we can get from his study. Let's dive in -

The first author of the Book of Mormon is the prophet Nephi, who left Jerusalem with his family in about 600 B.C. and sailed to the Americas. Nephi passed the record to his younger brother Jacob, who gave it to his son Enos. Each author always gave the record to someone they trusted.

 “They should be kept and handed down from one generation to another, and be kept and preserved by the hand of the Lord until they should go forth unto every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.” - Alma 37:4

 Why is it called the Book of Mormon?

After hundreds of years, the record was given to Mormon, who was both a prophet and military leader. Mormon condensed all the writings into one volume, engraved on thin sheets of metal. He titled it the Book of Mormon. Before he died, Mormon passed the plates to his son Moroni. Moroni added a few words, then buried the plates.

 Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon

In 1823, Moroni appeared to Joseph Smith as an angel and told him where the plates were buried. Joseph Smith translated the plates into English by the gift and power of God, and the Book of Mormon was published in Palmyra, New York, in 1830.
Since that time, this sacred volume has been translated into more than 100 languages, and over 150 million copies have appeared in print.

 This is just actually a copied article from https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist/believe/book-of-mormon/who-wrote-the-book-of-mormon. and to think there's something on it to criticized and I don't know what's in his mind why he is quoting it?

According to this, Mormon condensed all the writings into one volume and passed it on to Moroni.
So, the said plates were compiled in one volume that Joseph Smith translated it into English.
If this is true why Joseph Smith did not rewriting the original text then translate it into English so that there is no doubt of the authenticity of the Book of Mormon?

Why would he write it and then translate it? What's the sole purpose of rewriting text and then translating it later? Just to show off that he has some ancient writing and convince people to believe him? I don't think God would allow that, and faith doesn't work that way, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. You see, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, your religion doesn't require faith, it only requires popularity, we don't do that kind of nonsense acts, and in fact, there's nothing to prove your religion either that it was called of God. You simply try to react to things that you can't even provide on your own. I simply call it nonsense.

The truth is there was no such thing as there were plates, it was only a made up story of Joseph Smith and his so-called witnesses.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 - King James Version
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

How do you know? How can you convince me that there's no such plate in spite of all the testimonies of witnesses? How can you prove that Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? And to throw back a question: How can you prove to us that Felix Manalo was called of God that he has a commission for his Philippine Religion? How can you convince us that God gave him authority to perform sacred ordinances such as Baptism and preach the Gospel? Do you have proof?

The truth is, the contents of the Book of Mormon were copied from the Bible and they made some changed of the gospel.

Just tell me the difference between copied and quoted? If you think it was copied, try to find an author of the book that made a statement without addressing or quoting the original author, who has a verbatim or word-for-word statement, in which we could simply say he made a statement that was already made by the authors in the bible. Can you find one?

The book of Mormon is one example of the perverted gospel that apostle Paul attested.
Galatians 1:6-9 - King James Version
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Again, and hopefully for the last time, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, this is clearly a misconception of Paul's statement to the Galatians. He was addressing the issue of Judaizers who want to convert the Gentiles to the Law of Moses and pervert the Teaching of Christ, mixing it with their traditions. This has nothing to do with the Book of Mormon, and the Book of Mormon itself clearly states the teaching of the Gospel such as Baptism, Confirmation, Endurance, Discipleships, Covenants and etc. this is clearly the teachings of Christ and not a perverted Gospel that you teach like your INC church of the Philippines telling everyone that Felix Manalo is the Last Prophet of this days and that he was the ravenouse bird of the far east that will free the Jews from Babelonian Captivity. Not any of those stories was fulfilled by your Prophet Manalo, and he simply perverted the doctrine of Christ that he is just a mere human and not God. See how you made yourself kick against the pricks? So stop fooling around with your nonsense doctrine of man.

Check out also -
No comments:

ANO ANG WANGIS NG INVISIBLE GOD? - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata



Yung tipong ikaw ang magtanong pero ikaw rin ang sasagot dahil ang gusto mo lang sa'yo lahat ang criticism, problema nga lang ay wala kang natutunan. Bigyan kita ng sagot at tanong sa statement ko na naging statement mo at try natin kung may alam ka o puro ka na lang copy-paste ng scripture pero di mo naman alam ipaliwanag. Let's go -



Jerry Nuñez Bustillo ANO ANG WANGIS NG INVISIBLE GOD NA TANGA KA ABER?
1 Timothy 1:17 - King James Version
17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Now look at that way of starting a conversation. Did this answer your question, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? You seem too confident every time you make a statement, but you can't even answer it on your own. Check out the response on this one, and I'll be waiting for your rebuttal. https://bustillo-family.blogspot.com/2026/02/tinatanong-ko-ang-mga-ito-kung-bakit.html
 
Deuteronomy 4:15-16 - King James Version
15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

Not even close to the topic, the context of Deuteronomy 4:15-16 was all about God's instruction to Moses and to the People that during those times, when he appeared to Moses, his countenance was never known to any man, so they were instructed not to make graven images in any likeness since they don't have any reference as to what God should look like. This is not even an issue to the concern of Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, and it seems like he simply picked up some random biblical lines without knowing the background.

Check out other responses on this topic here -
No comments:

I think the WIKIPEDIA is absolutely correct that some content of the Book of Mormon was copied from the Bible, specifically in the KING JAMES VERSION. - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata


Now, here is another assumption-based ideology from our INC Philippine Friend, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. Let's check out what new study he got that might help us learn more about the Gospel of INC (if they have). So let's dive in -

I think the WIKIPEDIA is absolutely correct that some content of the Book of Mormon was copied from the Bible, specifically in the KING JAMES VERSION.
Let me get an example:

Oh, really, that's cute. I enjoy that kind of statement. Okay, so what's the main point of this criticism? Why would that be a concern? Let's go ahead and explore your collection, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.

Genesis 3:22 - Old Testament
22 ¶ And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Moses 4:28 - Pearl of Great Price
28 And I, the Lord God, said unto mine Only Begotten: Behold, the man is become as one of us to know good and evil; and now lest he put forth his hand and partake also of the tree of life, and eat and live forever,

Oh, yeah, of course, I can see that aside from those few lines that clearly state who he was talking to, so yeah, it was all on the same page. Was this suggestion all about copying the scripture? Seriously?

For your information, the Joseph Smith translation in the Pearl of Great Price, specifically the Book of Moses, was indeed the same story as the Old Testament book of Genesis. So how would this be a copy or plagiarism of a scripture that was clearly quoted on the same timeline and History? Why would Joseph create a different Genesis when it was exactly the same as Genesis? It would be a disaster if Joseph Smith had simply twisted Genesis on different story and claimed that Genesis was a twisted Translation from Aramaic to Hebrew text, which doesn't make sense to a prophet who believes and agrees on the Bible.

Genesis 1:26 - Old Testament
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Moses 2:26 - Pearl of Great Price
26 And I, God, said unto mine Only Begotten, which was with me from the beginning: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and it was so. And I, God, said: Let them have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

This is not actually in the Book of Mormon, I don't think you know something about the standard works we are using. Again, go back to my previous comment above and start thinking about how clumsy your criticisms are.

Matthew 5:48
New Testament
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
3 Nephi 12:48
Book of Mormon
48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 5 and 3 Nephi 12 were actually the same Christ who taught the same sermon to different audiences. So why was it a question? Why would Christ choose a different set of sermons where he used the same teachings and standards? I give you an example -
Luke 4:18-19 is an example of the saviour quoted from Isaiah 61:1-2 -

Luke 4:18-19 (KJV) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
VS
Isaiah 61:1 (KJV) The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

So what do you think? Was Christ trying to rephrase the words of isaiah or more accurately he pervert Isaiah's words, was he? Was it a perfect example of copying the text and changing it, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata? Then try to reconcile it using your own ideology. For me, I will give you my opinion so you may have an idea that you can borrow anytime, so for me, this all depends on the scribes or the author of the writings. They may quote a verbatim line or may not be, for as long as the meaning of the text remains intact. See what I mean? It's not about copying rather how it was used and how it was address to the audience.

Now back to the main issue. According to your criticism, Matthew 5 and 3 Nephi 12: Do you think this is a copied text, or was it actually a repetition of his words while he was in the Middle East? I don't think you know anything about it, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata. You haven't proved a thing here; rather, you simply declare it was copied without knowing the context. And this seems you don't know the settings of the content or what the context was all about, rather copying and pasting it and making an argument, thinking it was a fraud. Too clumsy, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata, your ideology seems so predictable.

John 10:34
New Testament
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Doctrine and Covenants 76:58
Doctrine and Covenants
58 Wherefore, as it is written, they are gods, even the sons of God—
There are a lot of similarity.

Okay, so what was with it? Does quoting a scripture in claiming its fulfilment not allow? Also, it is not in the Book of Mormon. So why would you think it was copied in the Book of Mormon?

Therefore, the Book of Mormon, I think is one of a perverted gospel that apostle Paul talking to.
Galatians 1:6-9 King James Version
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Paul is not talking about other books of our days, such as The Book of Mormon or the Quran or something religious writings that we could have read like your PASUGO, but rather Paul is talking about the Judaizers who try to convert the Gentile believers to Judaism and the Law of Moses or some other Ceremonial Law. Paul clearly said that it is not necessary for the Gentile since the Law was already fulfilled in Christ. Whoever made this comment, either Jose Rodelio Retome Rata or someone else who helps you, is totally ignorant of Scripture Text. You fail it again, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata.
No comments:
➡️ Home
Subscribe to: Comments (Atom)