Question or Statement? - Jose Rodelio Retome Rata
Ok, so tell me; What did I claim? Do you know the difference between a question and a statement?
ITONG MGA MORMON NAGTUTURO NG MGA BAGAY NA DI NILA NAUUNAWAAN. - by Jose Rodelio Retome Rata
ITONG MGA MORMON NAGTUTURO NG MGA BAGAY NA DI NILA NAUUNAWAAN.
1 Timothy 1:7 - King James Version
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
DI NILA NAUUNAWAAN ITONG NASA 2CORINTO 12:2.
2 Corinthians 12:2 - King James Version
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
ANG TINUTUKOY DIYAN NA THIRD HEAVEN AY ANG KINAROROONAN NG DIOS.
Psalm 115:3 - King James Version
3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
ANG IKALAWANG LANGIT NAMAN AY ANG KULAY ASUL NA YAN NA PARANG TOLDA.
Isaiah 40:22 - King James Version
22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
This has nothing to do with your "Italian Flag"; your bigotry simply tells you you're misquoting the scriptures.
Isaiah is portraying what an incredible and majestic God is in this verse and the whole chapter. God is represented as one who is so high above the earth that His viewpoint can be likened to that of a person who sees all the earth's inhabitants as tiny little creatures. The metaphor of God's laying out the universe like a cloth or a tent shows His might and the enormity of His making.
ANG UNANG LANGIT NAMAN AY ANG KALAWAKAN NA NILIKHA NG DIOS SA IKALAWANG ARAW NA TINAWAG NIYANG LANGIT.
Genesis 1:6-8 - King James Version
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Again, Paul's vision wasn't yet revealed in his time and wasn't even linked in the Old Testament, as you perfectly misquoted. It was not about Christ's Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), not even the "Many Mansions" Teaching of Christ (John 14:2-6), but rather Paul's word plainly said "He cannot Tell"; obviously, it wasn't written yet in the scripture in his time. So how come you have the answer on the Old Testament, where it wasn't even revealed yet? See how you clearly made things up using your poor study. Nice Try!
Other Commentary that might help you out, Jose Rodelio Retome Rata-
Benson Commentary
2 Corinthians 12:2-3. I knew a man in Christ — That is, a Christian. He must undoubtedly have meant himself, or the whole article had been quite foreign to his purpose. Indeed, that he meant himself is plain from 2 Corinthians 12:6-7. Fourteen years ago — So long, it seems, the apostle had concealed this extraordinary event; a circumstance which shows how little disposed he was to speak vauntingly of himself. Whether in the body — And by the intervention of its senses; or out of the body — And without any such intervention, the things which I saw and heard were communicated to me; I know not — It is equally possible with God to present distant things to the imagination in the body, as if the soul were absent from it, and present with them, as seems to have been the case with Ezekiel in the visions mentioned Ezekiel 11:24, and Ezekiel 37:1; and with John in those recorded Revelation 17:3; Revelation 21:10; or, as the Spirit caught away Philip, (Acts 8:39,) to transport both soul and body for what time he pleases to heaven; or to transport the soul only thither for a season, and in the mean time to preserve the body fit for its re-entrance. But since the apostle himself did not know whether his soul was in his body when he had these visions, &c.; or whether one or both were actually in heaven; for us to inquire into that matter would be vain curiosity, and extreme folly. “It is of more importance to observe, that he supposed his spirit might be carried into the third heaven, and into paradise, without his body. For, from his making such a supposition, it is plain he believed his spirit could exist out of his body; and that, by the operation of God, it could be made to hear and see, without the intervention of his bodily organs.” Such a one caught up into the third heaven — The habitation of the divine glory, far above the aerial and the starry heavens. For, “in the language of the Jews, the first heaven is the region of the air, where the birds fly, which therefore are called the fowls of heaven. The second heaven is that part of space in which the stars are. This was called, by the Jews, the heaven of heavens. See 1 Kings 8:27. The third heaven is the seat of God, and of the holy angels, into which Christ ascended after his resurrection, but which is not the object of men’s senses, as the other heavens are.”
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary 12:1-6 There can be no doubt the apostle speaks of himself. Whether heavenly things were brought down to him, while his body was in a trance, as in the case of ancient prophets; or whether his soul was dislodged from the body for a time, and taken up into heaven, or whether he was taken up, body and soul together, he knew not. We are not capable, nor is it fit we should yet know, the particulars of that glorious place and state. He did not attempt to publish to the world what he had heard there, but he set forth the doctrine of Christ. On that foundation the church is built, and on that we must build our faith and hope. And while this teaches us to enlarge our expectations of the glory that shall be revealed, it should render us contented with the usual methods of learning the truth and will of God.
To the third heaven - The Jews sometimes speak of seven heavens, and Muhammed has borrowed this idea from the Jews. But the Bible speaks of but three heavens, and among the Jews in the apostolic ages also the heavens were divided into three:
(1) The aerial, including the clouds and the atmosphere, the heavens above us, until we come to the stars.
(2) the starry heavens, the heavens in which the sun, moon, and stars appear to be situated.
(3) the heavens beyond the stars. That heaven was supposed to be the residence of God, of angels, and of holy spirits. It was this upper heaven, the dwelling-place of God, to which Paul was taken, and whose wonders he was permitted to behold - this region where God dwelt; where Christ was seated at the right hand of the Father, and where the spirits of the just were assembled. The fanciful opinions of the Jews about seven heavens may be seen detailed in Schoettgen or in Wetstein, by whom the principal passages from the Jewish writings relating to the subject have been collected. As their opinions throw no light on this passage, it is unnecessary to detail them here.
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